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« on: February 03, 2004, 12:02:59 PM »
Muslims Suspend Laws of Physics!
Interview with Dr. Michael Elliot. A Canadian Physicist
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For example, Peter G. Peterson, chairman of the CFR and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York announced that his Blackstone Group had purchased, in October 2000, the mortgage on 7 World Trade Center, the 47-story building built by Larry Silverstein in 1987. Silverstein is the person who obtained 99-year leases on the twin towers shortly before 9-11 and who insured the property and its future income against terrorism. He is seeking some $7.2 billion claiming the attacks were two separate events.

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WTC 7 mysteriously collapsed at 5:25 p.m. on 9-11, in what appears to have been a controlled demolition. John Wholihan, a firefighter with Rescue 5 from Staten Island was near WTC 7 when it collapsed. Wholihan told American Free Press that he heard "many explosions" just before the building collapsed neatly within the perimeter of its foundation. Silverstein received some $441 million in insurance money for WTC 7 although the cause of the collapse remains officially unexplained
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One of the first firefighters in the stricken second tower, Louie Cacchioli, 51, told People Weekly on Sept. 24: "I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building."

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A lead engineer who designed the World Trade Center Towers expressed shock that the towers collapsed after being hit by passenger jets.
"I designed it for a 707 to hit it," Lee Robertson, the project's structural engineer said. The Boeing 707 has a fuel capacity of more than 23,000 gallons, comparable to the 767's 23,980-gallon fuel capacity.

http://www.rense.com/general17/eyewitnessreportspersist.htm

2) There is no official testimony on the collapse on Building 7, only a study, which doesn't come to any single conclusion, why B7 collapsed. http://www.house.gov/science/hot/wtc/wtc-report/WTC_ch5.pdf In September 2002, Con Edison therefore decided to sue Building 7. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/11/nyregion//11BLAS.html
3) The former footprints of Building 7 can not be visited by tourists, it's the only side, which was still closed at the end of 2002. Federals watching the outside of the former building.
4) Blackstone Group, a subsidiary of military company TRW, obtained a mortgage on Building 7 in October 2000. http://www.blackstone.com/news/press_releases%255C7_world_trade_oct_2000.pdf
5) 34 km north of WTC, Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University registered a 0.6 Richter earthquake at the begining of collapse. -Isn't it a bit strange to register it 20 km far away? In the beginning of the fall?
6) The building fell down in an ALMOST PERFECT free fall. As it was 174 m high it's free fall would be 5.956 s. It fell in 6 s. That is difference of 0.05 s! -It is maybe the most promising physical fact that has to be considered! Simple equation says it. t= sqrt(2h/g) And look how it violently starts to sink! Without any tensity or cracking of the facade.
7) It fell DIRECTLY in its own footprint. The debris was spread only a bit more than 10m around. The pile of debris was less than 15m high. Normally, it should TILT and destroy a block, or another building, like Verizon, or US Post Office. It should collapse slowly. And the pile would consist of many big pieces of floors-none found. There were only few "big" pieces of facade maybe 3-4 floors big. Everything else was MUSHED. It is extremelly dumb to even think that EVERYTHING would be broken. Simple collapses (like when we just sewer the building's foundations) should be pretty caotic (even more for a LOCAL fire).
8) It was burning (not so vigorously as media says, I saw the pictures) for 7 hours. Those fires were local, spread on 2 floors. Not AS CLOSE as the First Interstate Bank in 1988 L.A. (it's FOUR floors were burning for 18 HOURS! The fires were great). Someone at other forum mentioned diesel explosions. I ask you: Do you think that diesel fuel (oily and heavy) could EXPLODE and throw of balance a STEEL tower? I think no. Neither car gas could. Diesel doesn't create so much flamable steam that could get into a proper mix with O2. And there have to be good conditions. Car gas is volatile and it would explode, but NOT with such vigourosity as for example TNT. No way.
9) It's penthouse sank first, meaning that the center of the building was destroyed first. I think the center was mushed, then the facade broke down while falling.
10) Chain squibs are visible going on ~10 floors. Did you see them on your video that you posted a link to? Again mushing. I wonder sometimes why would the bad guys that did this plant SO MUCH detonators inside-it is useless. There could be less of it.
11) This would be the first steel-framed building in history to fall because of fire. Compare: http://home.attbi.com/~jmking/Collapse_update.htm http://www.wjhl.com/videopopup/videos/MGBDMPD7IRC.html http://members.aol.com/erichuf/PainfulQuestionsLinks.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7collapse.html http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7big.rm Another video of the collapse of WTC 7. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/7collapse.avi And another video of the collapse of WTC 7. http://ontario.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/wtc-7_collapse.mpg And yet another video of the collapse of WTC 7. http://www.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/wtc-7_cbs.mpg
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2004, 12:07:31 PM »
Well that settles it.  Bush engineered 9/11.

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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2004, 12:08:06 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2004, 12:11:37 PM »
A reason for pause...

or not.

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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2004, 12:12:01 PM »
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Well that settles it.  Bush engineered 9/11.


LOL! :)

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2004, 12:28:43 PM »
OH NO not this again.

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2004, 01:40:18 PM »
I talked to a guy just last week that was involved with clearing the frequencies to be used by the real pilots flying all four jetliners that day.  Fact is they were not pilots in the sense you ordinarily think of.  These guys were sitting in vans traveling under the flight paths controlling the jets by remote radio transmission.  Those 19 Sauds were actually quite innocent.  Just grasp the power of media if you can.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2004, 01:48:55 PM »
Kappa
 If this was all a big conspiracy, you and all the people who run those web sites would disappear or be in jail.

There are more then enough REAL issues to dislike Bush on why keep pushing this BS?

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2004, 02:18:27 PM »
whew... I thought he was gonna say we missed stalins birthday or something.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2004, 03:05:09 PM »
They were trying to cover up evidence of Hoffa's murder!  They blew it up because Jimmy was in Column #3 in the center section!

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2004, 03:06:29 PM »
767's are a lot bigger then 707's.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2004, 03:07:10 PM »
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I talked to a guy just last week that was involved with clearing the frequencies to be used by the real pilots flying all four jetliners that day.  Fact is they were not pilots in the sense you ordinarily think of.  These guys were sitting in vans traveling under the flight paths controlling the jets by remote radio transmission.  Those 19 Sauds were actually quite innocent.  Just grasp the power of media if you can.


You're not serious right???????

also do you really live on the muroc dry lake bed?

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2004, 03:32:58 PM »
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767's are a lot bigger then 707's.


yes they are.. It was the amount of fuel each carried that I thought relevant since the burning fuel was suppose to be the culprit... Much of this idea is covered in my first link. It is an excellent essay..

I would feel it easy to be cynical like you guys if these theories and ideas could be easily dismissed or proven false. I have been unable to. You guys do not attempt to. WTC #7 remains unanswered. This following statement alone should raise many question among you, yet it fails to. Perhaps it is too large to fathom.

The building fell down in an ALMOST PERFECT free fall. As it was 174 m high it's free fall would be 5.956 s. It fell in 6 s. That is difference of 0.05 s! -It is maybe the most promising physical fact that has to be considered! Simple equation says it. t= sqrt(2h/g) And look how it violently starts to sink! Without any tensity or cracking of the facade.

The simple idea that it JUST fell to fall is accepted..

A few more questions:

Where is OBL? When was the last time our government mentioned him? Why can we not catch him?

Does this alone not inspire thought? Does it seem right? Of course not, yet it is accepted..

Governments are evil. We all know this to be true. There are simply too many unanswered questions to sit back and be complacent To accept whatever is given to you..
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2004, 03:39:03 PM »
You post a bunch of BS, then call us stupid, and wonder why we do not take you seriously??


You are a piece of work Kappa.


If we are all so dumb why don't you go find a new forum?  I bet if you within a few days they won’t take you seriously either.


You are NOT the only sane man in a sea of fools.

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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2004, 03:39:46 PM »
There was this guy once named Velikovski (or something like that) who claimed that Venus was actually just a chunk that broke off Jupiter and that this chunk was the explaination for the earth standing still (The sun stopping) in the Old Testament. He also had the nerve to write a whole book about it called "when worlds collide".

This is kinda like that.