P-47 Performance?

[Wilbus]

Not at all Sway, one of the best fighters in the MA, alt or no ALT, you just need to learn how to fly it.

[Sway]

I'm quite capable of flying most american fighters, but a spit of any type will thrash a jug if It wants.

[frank3]

(most spitflyers don't )

[humble]

Jug is a suprisingly good phone booth fighter...it's got a great roll rate and handles very well on the edge of a stall...flaps give it enough of a turn rate to suprise the unwary...more than a few spitties have gone down hard going for the "easy kill"...jug is all about the pilot not the plane itself.

[DoctorYO]

Tips for the Jug..

I take internal fuel never external..  why? drag is worse than weight (this thing is a beast, weight has little effect on it.)

When you want max accel. put her into a shallow dive maybe .5k per min or less..  your be surprised at the proformance increase at minimal loss of alt.

Try to use 3g turns or less when able. Always think energy..

Carry the light ammo load 1068, 1068 makes difference in my opinion..

You do jabo take the heavy ammo load..

Raise seat slightly maintaining full crosshairs, no gamey stuff just a slight improvement...

Fly the d11 first and work your way up..

D11 is most forgiving in flight and decent dogfighter...

when defensive use rolloing scissors like a 190..  works even better in a JUG IMO due to stability...

Do not pop flaps when defensive, until stall speed. (always be thinking energy no exceptions)

Utilize flaps when on offensive if needed, combine with throttle management you will get the gun solution long enough to vaporize almost any enemy.

Utilize fast climbs when in combat zone.

250 ias at 1.5 -  2k (d11) to 250 ias at 2 - 2.5 (d30)  you need to keep speed up to at least 250 to manuever.  anything slower and your Jugging  (no pun intended)

I set my guns at stagger 4 guns 275m 4 at 300m

This puts a kill zone at 200m - 500m with a 1 sec burst...

use your own preference i like to get close...

Set you wing to the battle line when climbing out near combat..  (important in d11, no so much in d30 due to excellent visability)

attack bombers with inpunity.  they have no chance .... (use tactics though dont fly dead 6..)

When defensive utilize the Head on..  They want to play chicken, serve them..
(exception would be the 4 cannon planes and other heavily armed ones..)

Youll be surprised when they take the dirt nap and you fly home on leaking oil for next 10 mins..  

Durability.. this thing takes ground fire like no tomorrow..  and lives to talk about it...  Use this attribute its the Jugs strength..

Zoom and boom... should be your primary tactics..  since only a sec solution time is needed against all fighters stall fighting should be shunned in multiplane engagement..  One on one if you have advantage (pilot or position) don't be shy the jug can get the gun solution even if briefly to finish them..

when in doubt and defensive with air under ya..  head straight down.. Rolling as you go..  Nothing can follow you in this highspeed barreling becuase when they get solution pull hard and chop throttle if necessary.  Usually youll out run them. but if not use above technique and watch them overshoot in the dive..  8 .50s later theyll be cursing you a cheater...

Thats it for now enjoy..



DoctorYo

[ra]

Carry the light ammo load 1068, 1068 makes difference in my opinion..

Dunno about this, having all that ammo is worth the temporary extra weight imho.

[frank3]

I've had many dogfights (no-icons fights, 4 vs 4) with 2 x 1067 rounds. I've never used more than 1000 rounds.

[bozon]

Originally posted by frank3
I've had many dogfights (no-icons fights, 4 vs 4) with 2 x 1067 rounds. I've never used more than 1000 rounds.

that's cos without the icons, you only shoot when the bandit is right in your face... unless that is actually your wingman you are shooting at (did I say I was sorry...?)

also, in the MA you usually aim for more then 4 kills.

Bozon

btw, was a fun and instructive to try icons off fight. thank you (was "velox" in H2H account).

[simshell]

one of the most fun things to do in a JUG is to go rightoutside a furball dive get to like 500+ mph and then fly into the furball looking for anyone that comes close to your path and unleash the wrath of those 8 50 cals and then take that huge jug and zoom like a rocket ship and repeat this till low on ammo or fuel

[Glasses]

Well the only other aircraft in AH I know has pretty good hanging on prop ability in AH is the TA 152H but that's once the wing tanks are empty( like they should be for normal flights)  the Ta becomes a really good High alt ifghter virtually hanging on it's prop  and leaving aircraft like the Jug gasping to catch it and to some effects the Pony suffers from the same thing against the Ta above 25k , though the spits for some reason in AH can hang pretty well and can zoom climb with it,for some strange reason.

Anyhow those are my thoughts and the Jug is a good plane in the hands of a good pilot no question about that.

[frank3]

Originally posted by bozon
that's cos without the icons, you only shoot when the bandit is right in your face... unless that is actually your wingman you are shooting at (did I say I was sorry...?)

also, in the MA you usually aim for more then 4 kills.

Bozon

btw, was a fun and instructive to try icons off fight. thank you (was "velox" in H2H account).

Velox! YOU!!! It already thought it was strange to shoot down 2 of a 3 plane strong enemy formation, chasing the last on and get shot from behind But those things happen in real live (use the zoom button next time )

[Raptor]

one thing I like about the P47 is at low speeds on an enemy... if they go inverted you pull up and when facing straight up (leave full throttle and keep pulling back) your nose flips over quickly and you gain a short burst onto enemies canopy (with those 8 50 cal its long enough).
Yes... I get down n' dirty with 109's, etc. only use E when I am outnumbered by 3 or so (or against zero's, hurrs and early spits but they dont count. )

[frank3]

Puh, spits are no thread at high alt

[HoHun]

Hi Oldman,

>HoHun, you lazy dog, have you signed up to fly here yet?  Some of us (or at least one of us) are (is) looking for you.

Following your ecouragement, I tried both AH2 and AH1. I didn't sign up in the end, but I was VERY impressed by Aces High generally. You can read more about it at:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109849

(I got bashed there for my post. Well ... "inevitably", I'm tempted to say.)

>Expect to see you in the CT.

The CT only seemed to have around 10 players while I flew, so I ended up in the MA. This might have been part of the problem.

>You will be amazed to find that in AH it is actually a pretty good plane, much closer to reality than the AW version. Lots of fun.

I took the P-47 up for a couple of flights and thought it was great! I got shot down, but that took a pair of Me 262s, and quite a number of increasingly well-coordinated attacks. I was quite happy with that fight as I felt I made myself a difficult target (for a while at least :-)

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by HoHun
Following your ecouragement, I tried both AH2 and AH1. I didn't sign up in the end, but I was VERY impressed by Aces High generally. You can read more about it at:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=109849

Sorry for the responses you got from most of my colleagues, HoHun.  CT numbers at European times have always been tough, so I'm told.  With luck, that will improve.  In the meantime, don't forget that you now have the ability to fly in the Head-to-Head arenas for free, forever.  One of my sons does that, and has a great time and some good fights.

- oldman