Author Topic: God ? (Read 9103 times)

mrblack · « **Reply #30 on:** February 07, 2004, 02:00:12 AM »

I do believe in a higher power .
what it is I have no idea really.
i choose to believe much like the american indians do in a creator
spirit.

Steve · « **Reply #31 on:** February 07, 2004, 02:01:28 AM »

Well that IS the thing Estes.. IF there is a God in the Christian sense... what you desire after death is moot.... your actions in life dertermine your fate, not your wants.
It's a big IF though.

mrblack · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2004, 02:28:52 AM »

Spend any time in the moutains of Colorado.
Or in the splendure of a womans soft curves.
Then tell me there is no God.

Or perhapes in the fresh begginings and hope in the eyes of a new born child.
And If that dont do it.
Who takes away your pain when you have lost someone close to you.
you know what I mean the pain does subside enough over time for to to carry on.

Who instilled the natural love a mother has for her child?
Yeppers there must be a God there are too many wonders in this life for there not to be.

Yes gentlemen I am 6'4" 260lbs .
But i am a weekling in his presence and from time to time I drop to my knees to give thanks for all I have for with out him in my life I would be far worthless than I am now.

God sees thue your Bullchit and loves you anyway.
pretty amazing huh.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #33 on:** February 07, 2004, 02:42:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
I believe in God... it's the safest bet. Those that don't believe in God are gambling their eternal soul(in the event it exists).

If I'm wrong about believing in God, no harm done. If I'm right, I score and all the unfortunate heathens and athiests get a very hot reception, lasting all eternity.

If that is the basis of your faith, well...

"If I'm wrong, no harm done" that says you allow for the possibility that God does not exist rather than knowing in your bones that He does exist.

When you truely believe the horse will win you don't need to hedge your bet. When you hedge your bet you play the odds and you are not a true believer.

see ya in hell...

beet1e · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2004, 02:43:21 AM »

NO.

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Originally posted by mrblack
Spend any time in the moutains of Colorado.
Or in the splendure of a womans soft curves.
Then tell me there is no God.

There is no God.

<-- 6'-1", 217lb, son of Methodist Preacher.

Seraphim · « **Reply #35 on:** February 07, 2004, 02:49:47 AM »

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n: If God created everything, did God create Evil? Seem's to me, allowing evil IS evil.. therefore:???

Free will
If your statement were true, all of us would be be evil; how many of us go out of our way to stop any evil at all everyday?
If God made us all 'good', wouldnt that be a slave master?

Nilsen · « **Reply #36 on:** February 07, 2004, 03:22:35 AM »

newtype · « **Reply #37 on:** February 07, 2004, 04:43:01 AM »

Lol, you agnostic types are too much.

beet1e · « **Reply #38 on:** February 07, 2004, 05:51:21 AM »

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Originally posted by newtype
Lol, you agnostic types are too much.

Agnostic was not quite the A-word I had in mind.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 07, 2004, 05:58:33 AM »

me either

beet1e · « **Reply #40 on:** February 07, 2004, 06:18:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
I believe in God... it's the safest bet. Those that don't believe in God are gambling their eternal soul(in the event it exists).

If I'm wrong about believing in God, no harm done. If I'm right, I score and all the unfortunate heathens and athiests get a very hot reception, lasting all eternity.

That's a well known belief system, Steve. It's known as Pascal's Wager. (BTW I don't subscribe to that website, and do not engage in rituals wearing a black hood, or anything like that!)

Ping · « **Reply #41 on:** February 07, 2004, 06:19:56 AM »

Yes to the possibility and Yes to the existence.

NUKE · « **Reply #42 on:** February 07, 2004, 07:39:12 AM »

If one can't be open minded enough to even consider the possibility of a God who created everthing we know ( our known universe) and ourselves, it would seem to me such a person would have a false sense of trust in what man knows ( or thinks he knows) about the origin of everything.

For all we know our entire universe could be just a firecracker (hypothetically speaking) that some kid in the "real" universe just set off.

I would never presume to understand how it all began, but one thing is sure; the possibiltiy of God is just as reasonable as the idea that all the all the matter in the universe was created in some other way, or that it simply always existed.

That in itself is interesting to me..... the question of matter being in existance forever in time, or that it was created somehow from nothing, in a sense creating itself and all of us in the process.

This same question can relate to the existance of God; did God always exist or did God create God? The Bible says the God always was and always will be.

When it comes down to it, God cannot be ruled out. In fact I think it is more likely than not that there is a God.

It's all very interesting if you really get deep inside of yourself and ask yourself these questions with an open mind.

miko2d · « **Reply #43 on:** February 07, 2004, 08:09:19 AM »

NUKE: keep in mind I said "the possibility" miko, not that you believe in God.

That depends on what we mean by "believe", "universe" and "everything" (does it include the place that God resided "before" he created our Universe), etc. I certainly can imagine God createding a Universe. Does it mean I believe in possibility that our Universe was created by God?
Here is how I personally decide whether I believe - if I had to bet anything of value, I would bet against.
In fact, I bet on that every day. If I believed, I would likely act differently in my everyday life than I do now.

When it comes to reality I am perfectly satisfied that the current state of the universe, ourselves included, appeared spontaneously.
In academic discussions, I am perfectly ready to consider the possibility of a God.

miko

Fatty · « **Reply #44 on:** February 07, 2004, 08:38:45 AM »

If one can't be open minded enough to even consider the possibility of there not being a God who created everthing we know ( our known universe) and ourselves, it would seem to me such a person would have a false sense of trust in what men knew ( or thinks they knew) about the origin of everything.

For all we know our entire universe could be just a whim (hypothetically speaking) that some kid in the "real" universe just set off.

I would never presume to understand how it all began, but one thing is sure; the possibiltiy of Zeus's head exploding to create Athena is just as reasonable as the idea that all the all the matter in the universe was created in seven days or that it simply always existed.

That in itself is not interesting to me..... the question of matter being in existance forever in time, or that it was created somehow from nothing, in a sense creating itself and all of us in the process.

This same question can relate to the existance of Shiva; did Shiva always exist or did Thor create Odin? The psycic hotline says the superstitions always were and always will be.

When it comes down to it, reality cannot be ruled out. In fact I think it is more likely than not that the ancient greeks were right and this discussion is in regards to a false idol.

It's all very interesting if you really get deep inside of yourself and ask yourself these questions with an open mind to things you would normally laugh at.