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Offline juzz

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« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2000, 09:20:00 PM »
 
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Any German plane with a Swastika on it is a Nazi plane. Sorry, but that is the way it was.

Well, then there are no Nazi planes in Aces High.  

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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2000, 09:47:00 PM »
RAM you seem to have missed the point of the thread.    

I am mystified by your denouncement of several historically viable techniques (e.g. head on shooting and turn fighting) as dweebish.

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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2000, 10:09:00 PM »
RAM,
the only person who ever kills me HO when i dont HO hem myself is torque.

It DOES take 2 to HO.

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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2000, 10:24:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by RAM:
In this world there is something called "merge", wolf37...have you ever heard of it?

It consists on 2 planes crossing headon, but without firing.

Most fights here start with merges.

Now, some dweebs try to hit you before merging.

So no, it doesnt take 2 to headon.

Need more hints?

Ram,
I like you, I really do, but that is just arrogant.  

Also, in the mess that is the MA who the hell can take the time to have a nice clean duel.  There are cons just waiting to swoop down on you.  Get the kill, and get out!

Now I rarely HO, but I will do it.  Most of the time I try to avoid it, not because I think its a bad move, but because it is a roll of the dice.  If I'm base defending or just plain out of options, I will point my nose at anything I can.

I thought wolf laid out a nice post.

Cobra



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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2000, 10:37:00 PM »
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Ram always hijacks threads  

Now let's get back to talking about how much of a dweeb I am.

- Jig

Btw my wookie is bent.

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« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2000, 12:10:00 AM »
Ziggy u r a Ho

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« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2000, 01:15:00 AM »
<--Biggest dweeb ever found in the game...remember the whole volcano and buff gun thing??   im still proud of that

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« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2000, 02:00:00 AM »
RAM, have you ever read WWII pilots reports and seen just how many fights ended up as what we call HOs?  In the Pacific the USN often tried to HO Japanesse planes (or at least "fake" a HO), due to the tendency of the Japanesse fighters to catch on fire.  There are also many accounts from the BoB of Spitfire pilots and 109 pilots ending up in a HO when merging.  You can bet both pilots NEVER even thought about a guns cold merge.  

That said, AH is a game where having fun is the primary reason for playing. (LOL imagine that.   ) For me at least I have more fun trying to gain position on an enemy by employing superior E or BCM.  Normally when I see that someone is going to HO me, rather than manuver for a shot on my 6, I'm happy.  They are wasting gobs of E and giving me a shot where otherwise I wouldn't even have a chance.  To me being HOed lets me know that the other pilot is not very experienced, and this is a good thing.  

Besides, can you honestly say that if you were attacked by a 202 when you were in a 190a5 that you would not accept a HO?  



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« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2000, 05:38:00 AM »
FokerFoder+ (wonder what that "+" stands for   ) stop that Nazi plane crap please?!! About your arguments: we have no Swastikas at all - ok? Several other nations, which weren't part of the Nazi party flew 109s. (look out for my Swiss 109 markings thread!!)

By bringin up the Nazi term you implify that one who flies an axis plane is a Nazi symphatisant...    stop that ok? Thank you


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« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2000, 05:44:00 AM »
One thing is certain, its significantly easier to hit a target in AH than it was in real life... part of this probably has to do with the 'bubble' surrounding the aircraft in AH, if a bullet doesn't actually hit the wing it can still be hit if in proximity. Can't realy explain that very well.

And in real life it was unsual for an aircrafts wing to just be blown off, when I watch gun camera footage and reading accounts it was more common of the aircraft catching fire or flight control lines being severed and losing control. I wonder how many times in WW2 both horizonal stabs were shot off clean from an airframe...



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« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2000, 06:17:00 AM »
Well, after reading the entire post I can't resist replying: A lot of people, aircraft and tactics been called dweebish by now, I personally think that using the pro's of your ride over the cons of your adversary shows knowledge on your ride and good judgemental skills but that's all personal.

The only thing I really find dweebish in AH is the habit of lots and lotsa pilots to refuse risking their 'lives' for their country. It happens almost every MA session that a base is being vulched, everybody sees it, knows it and hears it and still refuse to come to the rescue. So you always end up with about three guys scrambling 30 times each and getting killed 29 times before they have cleared the say 15 bandits. And all the time noone even considers helping out, just because of their score (I think).

Same when a friendly gets bounced by let's say five cons, people run and won't interfere because they probably will die.

I love this game but the attitude of some people make me sick, it's about the fun, not the score, right?! If you're on a team the behave like it!


Oh yeah by the way, FlakBait had an excellent post on this sort of thing up here, so everybody who feels adressed learn his list of non sport behaviour and adapt  
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« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2000, 06:20:00 AM »
A26? Don't you think we have enough American buffs?

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« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2000, 06:26:00 AM »
I know, I know, we probably should opt for the Ju-88 and something like a Petliakov or Illiushin first but well call me sentimental but I love that Invader (and if HTC ever decides to bring a Vietnam sim they can still use the 26     )

And Nath, I would prefer if you wouldn't refer to it as a buff. In my opinion it's just a beautiful, streamlined, nimble and fast though slightly overgrown JaBo!  
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Bies

And bring the A26 and Hurricane (Mk IIC/D) to AH!!!



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« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2000, 09:05:00 AM »
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why did i bother reading this thread  

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« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2000, 11:59:00 AM »
Krim:
FokerFoder+ (wonder what that "+" stands for  : stop that Nazi plane crap please?!! About your arguments: we have no Swastikas at all - ok?

I'll check on that.

:Several other nations, which weren't part of the Nazi party flew 109s. (look out for my Swiss 109 markings thread!!)

But the swiss didn't fight the allies and burn Jews.  Like it or not, the Germans made the 109, the Germans were Nazis. If Japanese made a plane, and the Swiss flew it, the plane would still be Japanese. The 190 and 109 are Nazi planes with or without a swastika.

:By bringin up the Nazi term you implify that one who flies an axis plane is a Nazi emphatisant...  stop that ok? Thank you

Where do I imply that anyone who flys a 109 is a Nazi? I fly them occasionally, and I sure the hell ain't a Nazi or a Nazi wanna be.  I want to see how they fly.  Chuck Yeager flew lots of captured Nazi aircraft, and he sure wasn't a Nazi.  Your logic doesn't flow.

My logic is a aircraft made by Nazis is a Nazi plane.  Pure and simple. That does not equate to "People who fly 109s are Nazis".  I've driven Japanese cars, that does not make me Japanese.  However, the fact that I am an American does not somehow change the car to an American car.

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