Author Topic: questionable tactics (Read 1562 times)

mrblack · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2004, 06:36:50 PM »

Oh I agree with you RA But check out the link above.
ABC news reported it so it must be true:rolleyes:

mrblack · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2004, 06:42:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Since when is it illegal to target civilians in war?

Us policy military policy Is to never target civilians unless they pose a threat.

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They used Canadian snipers to take down mortar pits in afganistan.
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They sure did and they where world record shots too!
And the canadian army would not let the Us Army award them medals(but thats another story).
I don't know how far across the Tigris river the taget would have been but save to assume it was beyond the capability of the army M-24 or marine M40-A2.
Might pull It off with the M82-a1 ?

ra · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2004, 06:46:07 PM »

Why would U.S. snipers need to be across the Tigris river?

rpm · « **Reply #18 on:** February 18, 2004, 06:47:37 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
If there is a field that the US army thinks may be used to stage a mortar attack, they should monitor the field, either with snipers or with sensors. Then, if anyone enters the field to set up a mortar, the snipers can take them out or call in a mortar strike. Shelling the field at random sounds not only dumb but ineffective. So I won't believe this story unless some other sources confirm it.

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Or do you need a link from GOP headquarters to believe we screwed up?

ra · « **Reply #19 on:** February 18, 2004, 06:59:51 PM »

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Or do you need a link from GOP headquarters to believe we screwed up?

I didn't question that we had killed civilians, we kill civilians just about every day over there. What is hard to believe is that we randomly lob shells at a field in order to discourage attacks on our base.

What does the GOP have to do with this? Did Karl Rove order our troops to shell this field at random intervals?

ra

NUKE · « **Reply #20 on:** February 18, 2004, 07:21:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Boroda, hows Putin doing these days? I read an article this morning talking about how Putin was trying to re-posture the russian military back to its leading role as a nuclear equalizer against the united states (sounds good to me). During this military excercise that Putin was observing aboard a sub, another sub was launching missles when two of the missles had to be destroyed due to a technical faliure supposedly involving satelites. You guys in country hear anything similar?

Putin Watches As Missile Launch Fails

"The failed launch has shown the gap between the real condition of the Russian military and the ambitions and muscle-flexing of the Russian leadership," said Yevgeny Volk, the head of the Heritage Foundation's Moscow office. .

mrblack · « **Reply #21 on:** February 18, 2004, 07:29:44 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
Why would U.S. snipers need to be across the Tigris river?

Well If they had troops on the other side doing patrols none of this would have been needed in the first place.

But I think they may have a manpower problem now.

Idealy Sniper w/ the M-24 -M40-42 would want to be no further away that say 600 meters ( max effective range of the weapon is slightly over 800 metters)

So to assure a kill and cut done on wind effect 600M would be a max that I would wanna try.

Now what Is In you line of site?
Buildings, telephones wires or light poles :ect.

Then theres the all important part WHO and WHERE Is your enemy?

john9001 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 18, 2004, 07:48:42 PM »

funny i don't hear any of you weeping willows say anything about the hundreds of iraq civilians that al-qaeda is killing on purpose.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 18, 2004, 07:49:02 PM »

M40 range slightly over 800?

Man, I guess I didn't see people take longer shots then 1000 meters with no difficulty.

Pongo · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2004, 08:05:25 PM »

Honestly dont care about the Iraqi civis killed by Iraqi insurgents. Let the Iraqis sort that out. But I notice you are not interested in talking about this particular US unit adopting a fire base mentality.
But its a big army and this is one occurance in one place. They should think about a change of command thier unless the CO was told that he couldnt patrol.
Trying to out wait the Iraqi resistance with tactics like that is obviosly like rolling over and puting your paws in the air.

john9001 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 18, 2004, 08:42:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Honestly dont care about the Iraqi civis killed by Iraqi insurgents.

well , i do care.

US troops are not hiding in bunkers, today US troops and IRAQ POLICE captured 7 al-qaeda terrorists. the beat goes on.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 18, 2004, 09:01:41 PM »

They could, of course, mine the fields in question.

Pongo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2004, 09:28:54 PM »

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well , i do care.

US troops are not hiding in bunkers, today US troops and IRAQ POLICE captured 7 al-qaeda terrorists. the beat goes on.

Ya your probably right, the US army is on a roll in Iraq.
Notice how you promoted those 7 from "suspected links to al-qaeda" to "Al-qaeda terrorsts" your really getting the hang of this! Considering even the link is probably made up or questionable you have filled in the blanks real nice...
You could call them "7 Iraqi freedom fighters" if you like..since the name doenst make any difference.

It is interesting that US casualities in Iraq ave very very low so far this month as the insurgents seem to have switched to more civi attacks. Or maybe the armoured Humvees are helping. Or maybe the US isnt leaving their bases as much. US casualties for Feb are definatly way down though.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #28 on:** February 19, 2004, 07:51:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
It is interesting that US casualities in Iraq ave very very low so far this month as the insurgents seem to have switched to more civi attacks. Or maybe the armoured Humvees are helping. Or maybe the US isnt leaving their bases as much. US casualties for Feb are definatly way down though.

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Lizking · « **Reply #29 on:** February 19, 2004, 08:04:21 AM »

So far, no more news on that attack. Anyone else able to find anything on it?