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Offline aknimitz

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Mac Laptops Wireless Capabilities
« on: February 22, 2004, 02:24:58 PM »
Hiyas Everyone,

I am contemplating getting a mac laptop for use at home/work for both my wife and I. I have a PC (Windoze) at home, and currently have a Dell laptop on a wireless network.

Are there wireless networks that are PC/Mac compatible? Or do you have to have PC (Windoze) and Laptop (Windoze)?

Thanks for any input.

Nim

Offline Dinger

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2004, 02:46:57 PM »
Current mac laptops use 802.11g, which is backcompatible with 802.11b.  Of course they call it something stupid like "Wireless AirPort Extreme" or something, and in general, owning a macintosh is like owning a toy poodle that's groomed weekly: you better be damn confident of your masculinity, 'cos everyone's gonna question it, and with good reason.

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2004, 03:43:19 PM »
Son's fiance wants a Mac laptop to take to school 'cause it's cute and comes in pink. Be sure to get a pink one Nim. :p
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2004, 03:58:54 PM »
Dunno much about the wireless part - don't have a laptop so it's a useless gimmick for me - a cursory glance at the specs show that dinger's right, they have 802.11g and bluetooth as well (though that's not what most would classify as a serious wireless network) but both as optional extras!
They also come with standard 10/100BASE-T Ethernet thru cable, which is a cheaper option unless you really need to use 802.11b/g.

The rest of it - setting up macs & PCs to network - is fairly easy.
I use TCP/IP and static numbers 192.168.0.x (DHCP): PC with win2k is server, mac as client. That's for Inernet Connection Sharing (I use the PC for games and run MP game servers on it, so it's easiest to run the net connect through the PC). The PC is a bit moody about networking and can need a lot of coaxing, and the occassional restart to get internet on the mac. The mac is mostly automatic, and doesn't need restarting for network changes to take effect.
From the mac system prefs panel you change the network settings (choose type of connect, enter numbers) and sharing settings (printer, type of network, firewall settings). Once setup (you can have multiple network configs - for office, home, hotels etc. and switch between them for ease). Command K gets you to the network browser - choose SMB (for PC file sharing) and rummage for your PC for file/printer sharing. For the 'net (if you use ICS), the mac just finds it if its there, using Rendezvous. They also have a whole bunch of other more esoteric network solutions. 10.3.2 can even cope with win2k server doled out boot preferences (can't remember the real MS term for it) - you get the win2k server user's folders etc shared out to the mac.

Sadly Dinger is also right about the mac world being devoid of many of those geek-machismo inducing numbers that reign in the PC world and sticking to the alphabet more by using names like AirPort, and firewire and stuff instead. Easier to say and remember, harder to get confused and thus a real turn off for the techie. See also photography, cars and sport stats for this curious number fetishism - culminating in the famous Spinal Tap "This one goes up to 11" moment. ;) On the macho plus side though, your sperm count will be higher than the PC boys if you actually use it on your lap, as the G4 processor runs a lot cooler than intel/AMD chips. :D
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2004, 04:07:24 PM »
Mac's wireless works fine with PC's networks.

However, running in Ad Hoc mode (PC to Mac, without a wireless access point) is dodgey. So you'll probably want to buy an AP.

Mac's also have awful security, by default they broadcast incessently on the wireless network. They use passphrases instead of WEP keys. If you want to use a IPSEC VPN tunnel for wireless security they're a pain to setup (the Mac VPN client doesn't seem to work properly without 3rd party patches).

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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2004, 05:08:39 PM »
HEhe dead.  Plus the techies have to field questions like "Is my Airport Extreme system compatible with 802.11g?", which strangely, don't occur when someone says "Is my 802.11g system compatible with 802.11g?"

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2004, 05:29:11 PM »
Thanks for all the input.

And yes, I am confident about masculinity! ;)

Nim