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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2000, 10:02:00 PM »
Hang's my HO...

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2000, 11:31:00 PM »
dont call my beech no HO!

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2000, 02:57:00 AM »
Howdy-Ho!

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2000, 04:15:00 AM »
For the amount of 'anti-HO' whining we hear around these boards, you'd think that sim pilots INVENTED the headon attack  

Take the time to read 'Thunderbolt', by Robert S. Johnson, and see what P47 drivers in WW2 thought of deliberately engaging in HO attacks  

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2000, 06:53:00 AM »
I may be a HO... but I be a Very EXPENSIVE HO!  

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2000, 07:31:00 AM »
I pimp all my Ho's including verm

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2000, 07:48:00 AM »
Hi-dee-hi-dee-hi-dee-hi!

Hi-dee-hi-dee-hi-dee-ho!

As a reformed anti-HO dweeb, I can now say that I am enjoying every HO opportunity that I get. And I'm winning most of them. Strangely enough, the most effective HO machine I've discovered is the Yak9. It's more of a precise, pinpoint HO than a Spray & Pray HO.

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2000, 10:36:00 AM »
Last night I was killed trying to avoid a HO.

From now on, I'll bring my guns to bear at any opportunity that I can.  If that means a HO, oh well.  At least I'll be coming in with a hail of fire trying to clear the way for me.

Find the enemy and shoot him down, anything else is rubbish.

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2000, 11:04:00 AM »
My take on the infamous "Head On".

Why do I play Aces High? The flight model, damage model, gunnery model are all amazingly detailed and hard to learn. It's fun learning to fight in something difficult. Also, because of the live player interaction. I've played Confirmed Kill/WarBirds(v.91 up to 1.11r3), Fighter Duel over Kali, Red Baron 3D, Flying Circus and now this. The first two had very detailed and hard to learn flight models. The latter two were a lot more simpler and less complex. Extremely easy to fly, but they were arena based air combat. Multiple players doing their own lil' thang in a simple world. It was fun as hell. Not because it was hard to learn, but because of the fights. FC especially was a test of skill, not of who knew their plane better. I really like the challenge of flying against real live human opponents, I hate flying against scripted AI. They are boring and simply don't put up a fight. We all know this. That's what brings all of us together, one common interest. We all want to fight real live human opponents to test ourselves and have fights with realistic outcomes. Not 1 guy diving into a gaggle of 40 enemy AI planes and coming out on top. No, here it's not scripted and it runs on a dynamic system. You dive into a gaggle of 40 enemy human controlled planes, but shoot a few down. You may die, more friends may come and assist you or you may be able to run away and the pursuing planes break away. None of that would happen in EAW campaign mode, RB3D campaign mode or anything that works in a scripted sense.

Removing anything that could realisticly affect the outcome of a dogfight, whether it be a head on, the ability to turn tail and run away, or dumbing down the guns so you live longer is rediculous. Why? Why would you want to script a dynamic system? If every merge was guns cold, well I guarantee you it will get really freaking boring really freaking fast in any arena where *REAL* humans battle it out in a computer created world. The day we start following a set guidelines on how to and how not to engage the enemy, well that'll be the day I stop playing any game online. I like to know that my opponent is unpredictable, it teaches me not to do something so dumb as to let him get his guns around on me. Torque and his -1C can HO me all day, but he knows just as well as I do I never accept his jousting challenge. I just pull up and away and he usually doesn't get any critical damage on me.(sorry Torque, mean nothing by this. You are an excellent pilot, just using you as an example since you seem so popular ;-)

So, think about it realistically. Why do *YOU* play Aces High online? Is it to script combat so you can guarantee yourself a fair fight? If so, delete your account right NOW and please go play an offline game. You can program AI to be scripted, don't try to program a human player to not do a certain thing in combat.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2000, 11:41:00 AM »
Well said SeaWulfe   And I think maybe we've set an anti-anti-HO attitude. Hopefully it'll prevail  

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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2000, 12:51:00 PM »
I've expressed my opinions on HO's before. There are times when they're a good move, and there are times when it is a dweeb move.

Unfortunately, the latter is as common as the former.

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2000, 01:00:00 PM »
StSanta, Let me guess... It's only a dweeb move when they shoot YOU down??? Please explain why the angle at which someone shoots at you affects their dweebness. I just don't get it.

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2000, 04:56:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by dudedog:
I'm so sick and tired of the HO whine that I'm gonna whine 'bout it     I wanna smack all 'ya HO whiners, it takes two 2 to HO and that's that, so sha-dup already. IMO there's nothing wrong with pouring lead into an nme plane from "any" angle.

[This message has been edited by dudedog (edited 08-23-2000).]

It all depends a little what kind of guns you have dos´nt it?
Im telling you this:
As soon as I see A HOG I know exactly what is gonna happend, hes gonna go for the HO and Im dead.....I have no options at all.it just takes him to do it.
THIS IS GETTING PRETTY OLD!!
You are with another opinion, I respect that. But then again you are a typical "hogdriver".
Crabofix.....Pissed


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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2000, 05:24:00 PM »
I'm a "Hog Driver"??? You need to check your facts my friend. I fly the yak mostly and I never fly hogs. And if you can't escape a hog then you need to work on your ACM. Don't blame others for your faults...

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2000, 06:00:00 PM »
HO threads come and go....

Summary:
It happens, it's not a bad tactic for the E or tactics challenged.  Some planes even beg you to do it.  Everyone does it at one time or another, especially if they are desperate.... it's not a good way to run up a streak of kills though.

I tend to give people are hard time for it when I think they had other options but decided to HO me since it was easiest...  Usually I end up with a collision though since I'm trying to avoid it while the other guy is boring down on me.

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