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Offline Pfunk

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2004, 04:10:05 PM »
You can easily overclock your Barton if you care to........most people get at least 2ghz out of them
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2004, 04:47:56 PM »
If you would like to see what's out there as far as a barbones kit you might want to check out Tiger Direct. They have some great deals on cases and motherboards, so u might be able to save some cash there. I would be leary about buying one of their assembled kits though as i have heard that their warranty support is not very good. Just a thought for ya.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2004, 10:53:02 PM »
All ready got the system and put i together and am now using it.

Couple of points though.  May need latest 4 in 1 and some othr minor things.

Oh how do you tell if it's a barton?  Does not say on the box it came in.  Just says it's a 2500+ with a 333 FSB.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2004, 12:20:02 PM »
if your gonna buy and ASUS XP board go with the A7N8X deluxe rev 2.0 or newer versions.
And use DRR 400 (PC3200 or better) memory!  You wont regret it!
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2004, 12:38:27 PM »
All ready made the purchase.

A7V8X-X

AMD Barton 2500+

512 pc2700 ram

Case with 400 watt power supply

Ya I thought about the other MB's but they put me over the top with the budget I had set for myself.
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2004, 12:58:21 PM »
Did you get one or two sticks of ram ???
Your gonna need two to get the full potential outta that set up .

As for OCing you should have no problem at 2.0 ghz

For 2.19 ghz it takes a good cooling setup ( i use a copper base fine fined HS and 2 case fans ) 45- 48c idle temps and 54c max when gaming.

the amd forum should have all the settings for that mb and oc set ups.

I'd post them but im on 56k at the moment (not at home)
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2004, 02:25:35 PM »
FSB  on the Via boarf wont goto 200!
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2004, 04:11:16 AM »
Got a single stick, don't think the board has the dual memory setup.  If it does then I goofed :(

The A7V8X and the A7V8X-E  have the dual memory thing.

The FSB on this board is supposed to go upto 400.

Temp show right at 45C  right now but earlier it was at 53C?  opened a window and let some cool air in :)

Using the Asus prob and the Asus bios the temps come out slightly different but seems to run real close.

Overclock to 2.0 no problem?  I live in the high desert.   Gets cold at nite and can get pretty hot during the day!

Runnin at 1475 about right now.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2004, 09:25:59 AM »
Wrag a 2500 is supposed to run stock @ 1.83G
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2004, 11:19:39 AM »
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Got a single stick, don't think the board has the dual memory setup.  If it does then I goofed :(

The A7V8X and the A7V8X-E  have the dual memory thing.

The FSB on this board is supposed to go upto 400.

Temp show right at 45C  right now but earlier it was at 53C?  opened a window and let some cool air in :)

Using the Asus prob and the Asus bios the temps come out slightly different but seems to run real close.

Overclock to 2.0 no problem?  I live in the high desert.   Gets cold at nite and can get pretty hot during the day!

Runnin at 1475 about right now.


If your only running that chip at 1475mhz and it is idiling at 45C you have a problem. Did you put artic silver on the processor core?  How many fans do you have?  Are you using the stock heatsink and fan?  The chip runs at a default 166 FSB or 1.83 Ghz, I wouldnt recommend bumping the FSB to the 166 it should be at if your temps are that high and you are running it at 1475mhz
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2004, 02:29:15 PM »
Well the heatsink and fan are stock as is the stuff on the heatsink.

I set it to 1833 and it's hittin 62C according to the Asus probe software, but it's pretty warm here today :(

Think i'll invest in some arctic silver and a newer heatsink fan setup, but budget says I gotta wait about a month.

The case has 4 fans 3 pulling air in and one blowing it out and the power supply fan blowing air out.

Been checkin the probe software and the temp has dropped to 60C.  It's now 59C and seems to be dropping.  But I enable software cpu cooling for now.  But thinkin that may prove to be a problem when I'm online siming :(

The bios is set at like 95C for shutdown but the software is set at 79C.  Which is more correct?  Do I need to change the bios?  Don't wanna cook this system :(

I'm livin in the High desert (4000 Ft.) and the temps vary allot most of the time.  Can be in the 100's during the day and the 30' at night in the spring, summer, and fall.  But during the day it can get pretty warm inside a house but be pretty cool outside.  I just opened a window and turned on a fan to circulate the air and the temp dropped to 57C  But it is warm today and feels warm in the house.  It's about 12:30 here and nearing the hottest part of the day.  I'm in a t-shirt and jeans but it feels uncomfortable in the house and the temp in here could be over 90 F or so.  I say that because I'm pretty heat tolerant and can be comfortable when it's 100 F outside.

Oh the MB temp is 34C.
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2004, 04:04:43 PM »
Just try some Artic silver 1st before you go buy a new heatsink/fan you would be amazed at how much that in itself will lower temps.  Your computer shop should have it for less than $10.  Anything over 60C will cause instability problems and possible crashes, it wont fry your chip until it gets to the high 80's-90's.  However even with it being warm in you place the chip should not be running that hot, your motherboard temp is only 2 degrees hotter than mine and I am running the same chip at 2.4ghz my chip under load is 48C and idle is 38C, It is currently 80degrees in the house.
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2004, 04:29:23 PM »
If you have a side case fan running (i have the feeling it is) turn it around so in sux air inward and blows on the cpu fan this will stop the fans from fighting for air ... also dont let it suck air from off of the monitor (if your stack is on the right side of the monitor it will do this ) as for shut down temp  I would suggest 65-70c at the most ( I know amd says 85c for the athlons but talk to any service tech and they will tell you to keep it down below 60c)

The amd cpu's dont throttle back like the pentiums do thats why temp gets stressed when dealing with amd's and overclocking them.

And the artic silver is a must its only $8 for a tube and will last you a lifetime ,it only takes a raindrop worth on the center of the cpu .

Your mb temp is around the standard (mines at 32c at this moment)
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2004, 06:18:40 PM »
OK gonna get some arctic silver.  May take a couple of days.

Whats a good way to clean the cpu and heatsink before applying the arctic silver?

Cpu is right at 53C right now.  MB is at 30C

Only fans blowing out are the 2 in the rear of the case.   1 of those is the power supply fan.

The other 3 are pulling air in.
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2004, 08:12:02 PM »
your fans sound correct for good air flow .
For scraping off the old junk off the hs i just use a razor blade , then go over to the sink and finish with the dish scruby pad and some detergent .,409 works good . then dry it off .

for the cpu  just use your fingernail and a tooth brush to get the old stuff off if theres any stuck to it.

Ive gotten 4-6 deg C temp drops just by switching to artic silver .

running a low 50c temp with a athlon overclocked is about the standard these days with normal cooling.
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