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[JB73]

man .. firefox...

<-- scratches head wondering why everyone raves about it

• cant get to secure work related sites.
• cant upload @ picture hangar
• amazon.com cant "preview" files (heck the PICS of the CD's dot show up)
• AHBB the "post reply" text box is like 25 charecters wide. VERY annoying.

not at all impressive to me.

just did my taxes online. i used IE. wasn't feeling "comfy" enough with the capabilities (or IN-capabilities) of firefox.

oh well will keep giving it a try for now until it totally pisses me off LOL

[Coolridr]

still a beta...works great so far...I like it

[Nilsen]

Lol Wlfgng

Dont know anything about hockey so...
My suit is in the basement and the bear club technology is pure science-fiction here yet...we have heard rumors on the wireless tho.

[flakbait]

Vort, you got it backwards. NS 6.0+ is based off Mozilla's code, not the other way around.


JB, Firefox does work on secure sites. It won't work on sites that are coded for IE (CheckSix forums don't work in FireFox) or sites that have bad code. It's a fairly demanding browser since it requires proper site coding in order to work. If there's IE-only features present, you won't be able to use them. On the other hand, it doesn't leave port 80 wide open nor will it execute any code or plugins that you tell it not to. It's more a browser for people who want one that works, without all the whiz-bang stuff you get in the bloated browsers.


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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta Six's Flight School
Put the P-61B in Aces High

[Saintaw]

Originally posted by JB73
cant upload to picture hangar with it...

It's now fixed.

[vorticon]

Java applets offer neat little conveniences and programs, but security can be easily compromised through Java.

so what...everyone installs java on there alternative browser anyway...

It's more a browser for people who want one that works, without all the whiz-bang stuff you get in the bloated browsers.

mozilla netscape and opera are the most bloated browsers...k-meleon and firefox are non bloated...IE is somewhere in between...

the only real difference between IE and other browsers (other than plugin issues) is most websites do not look good on the other browsers...

security issues are non existant because i DONT click yes to every thing that pops up...

this is what my IE browser looks like...and i dont see why i should switch from a proven browser to a browser being developed by anyone and everyone who cant accept that IE won years ago...

[Nilsen]

i just wish webdesigners would stick with STANDARDS!!!

[Skuzzy]

Gee Vort,..why so passionate about IE?  It does violate HTML standards, but a lot of what Microsoft does violates accepted standards.
Microsoft did not win nor create the DNS/Bind system, yet they do violate the protocols which requires the standard software to work around the violations.
Two wrongs have never made a right yet.  Just because they have numbers does not make it right.

[Octavius]

Vort, you had a similar stance when a thread about DVDs vs. VCRs was around.  Get with it man!

[Saintaw]

IE allows developpers to be lazy, it's very forgiving.
That comes in as usefull when you're on a vewy tight deadline.

[flakbait]

You said it Nilsen!

Vort, IE is a bloated browser. Java download, patches up the ying-yang, activeX (virus trap), plus all 10,000 "security updates" that get issued every time a zit-poppin middle-schooler figures out a trick in IE. It's a mess. Firefox is an 8 meg download, takes up barely 20 megs installed, and does only what you want it to. I don't care about page transitions, flashy displays, or half-brained attempts to build a shockwave-only site. I want the browser to do just that, browse. Between Mozilla's code and ZoneAlarm I'm not only safe, I don't have to rangle IE every time it decides to conk out. Plus I don't need to hit Winblows Update every other week to get another "fix" for IE.

As I said, Firefox will only work on a properly written web site and it won't do all the whiz-bang things they show people doing on TV. It pulls up web sites with no hassle, no trouble, and no complaints. Now if some goombah IE user writes a web site in Yiddish, it'll make Firefox throw a fit because his site DOES comply with IE, but it does NOT comply with web standards. Importing your Favorites is as simple as going to the Bookmarks menu, using the manager, and importing your bookmarks after exporting them to a file from IE. Fairly simple, really. Now if you want a browser that'll pull up any site, show off Java, shockwave, flash, page transitions, and a slew of other stuff, go with IE. If you want a secure browser that doesn't need daily patching, use Firefox.



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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta Six's Flight School
Put the P-61B in Aces High

[Stoned Gecko]

Very well said, flackbait. I use Mozilla Firefox and I'm more than happy with it. It renderes the sites faster than IE, and the tabbed browsing is very usefull ... esp for reading the forums.

The only reason why IE is #1 is because it's included with the OS and the average user just doesn't know any better. What pisses me off is MS went and integrated IE into the OS, so now 90% of the security updates for IE have to be installed because your system is compromised even if you don't use it.

[vorticon]

Now if you want a browser that'll pull up any site, show off Java, shockwave, flash, page transitions, and a slew of other stuff, go with IE. If you want a secure browser that doesn't need daily patching, use Firefox.

ive patched IE twice...the slew of other stuff is used everywhere...security...set IE's level to medium and your set...speed...a few seconds difference...


then again i cant see why people buy cars that can go 120 mph when all cars can go the speed limit...

[Saintaw]

Tried it this morning, am impressed by the speed & some functions, but... JavaScript support is roughly close to the Netscape 4.7 version...  or worse.

This is what I posted on the FF forums.
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I've heard a lot of fuss about this FF from my nerd buddies... and decided to give it a try.

It seems that  JavaScript support is pretty strict (NN4.7-like? lol) I have a pretty straightforward piece of code runnin on one of the sites I've developped, it looks like this:

It's then called with a line that looks like this one:

To

This works fine in IE6 or NN6+ but nothing happens in FF. Is there a way around this, or is it just not supported yet?

[Virage]

Mozilla vote!

IE is unsecure.