Author Topic: Ever wonder on how to pull that nice reverse?? (Read 4919 times)

Muddie · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:58:46 PM »

I dunno, the sounds are different than when I'm flying MA. I'll have to do some research. I liked these (I'm running the soundpack btw).

Falcon IFS · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2004, 07:16:12 AM »

When did you make that film ?..One of my squaddies landed a Squad medal,and I need to make sure he gets it.
Nice use of guns, And in a Spit no less...very impressive

Falcon
31st Bomber Barons (Heavy)
Attack Wing

WilldCrd · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2004, 09:51:35 AM »

a most excellent film! still trying to master that manuever. My timming is off i think. maybe you could show me in the DA sometime?

Cobra412 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2004, 02:27:38 PM »

Wldthing I'm just curious if I saw that right. When they begin there attack run you start to slowly turn slight nose down and away. Once they've gotten close you do a lag roll back across there flight path. Once at the top acquire target, go to roll wings level then nose up on to them correct.

I'm assuming your forcing them to get there nose around into a lead pursuit position or maybe even letting them think they have a lead pursuit/high deflection opportunity. Then once they are just about within firing range you pull slightly harder to bring them to lag pursuit and start the barrell roll back across there flight path right?

Shane · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2004, 02:34:11 PM »

pretty much. it's all in the timing and relative speeds.

Wilbus · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2004, 07:37:26 AM »

I use the same move my self and it works 99% of the times, possibly more, the problem is when you're up against a good pilot who may expect it. He will either extend before going up, thus making you blow some extra during the atempted setup or he may actually kill you if your barrel roll is too *tight* (if you don't pull hard enough on the stick while rolling).

Like I said, use it very often but sometimes it may fail. Good post Wld.

ridenlow · « **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2004, 09:03:45 PM »

ok man i would realy like it if sometime you could take me to the da and show me some of this stuff i would realy appreciate it. and that was some of the best flyin i have ever seen:D

WldThing · « **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2004, 09:53:53 AM »

Hit me up in the MA when you see me

ridenlow · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2004, 10:09:45 AM »

I will do that, i have been doing alot of pratricing in the spit IX and i think i figured out how u did it but i jus cant kep the enemy in my sights:mad:

Kanth · « **Reply #24 on:** March 29, 2004, 11:44:58 AM »

why is it in the forHIM directory?

I'm pretty sure I know what you were doing..I'll get the film when I get home just cause I want to see the carnage and I'm wondering if I was even around.

you're right, those were very smooth reversals..

wish I'd been there...

dfl8rms · « **Reply #25 on:** March 29, 2004, 08:19:35 PM »

Kanth,

I'm hosting the film for Wldthing. Its in my upload space on our website. That's why it has "forHIM" in the link.

Kanth · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2004, 09:55:06 PM »

Well, that's nice of you. And thank you for the reply

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Originally posted by dfl8rms
Kanth,

I'm hosting the film for Wldthing. Its in my upload space on our website. That's why it has "forHIM" in the link.

jetb123 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 08, 2004, 04:06:36 PM »

Wildthing when i try to pull up its like they know i am doing that and they pop me one in the back. What am i doing wrong???

TweetyBird · « **Reply #28 on:** June 08, 2004, 09:37:05 PM »

I'll probably get blasted for this, but if the guy behind you is controlling throttle and he has his closure under control, that reversal isn't going to work. The basic fact is, if someone is on your 6 and has a little e on you, you are defensive, and unless they screw up, you should lose. Now WT or any other ace might see the guy on his six is controlling closure and go into his bag of tricks for something else, but that one aint gonna work. Still going into his bags of tricks reiterates he is DEFENSIVE. The reversal shown depends on you overshooting - if you dont - they're dead if you have any aim. Now if he is really good you migh never get shot to kill him, but there is no way he should win a fight given that starting position. At most "nice dodge" and go about your bussiness. Anything else is pilot error and more what YOU did than he did.

In short, I dont think you should be overly concerned the reversal doesn't work for you. Its a bad position to be in, and chances are you've made many errors to get into that position. It would be easier to correct those errors than hope to pull a 1 in 50 reversal that depends on the other pilot screwing up.

Its like scissoring - if you are spending a lot of time trying to scissors people, you're screwing up early, for the simple fact a scissors is a defensive move. So what do I do? Try to master scissoring or try to be on the defensive less? Whats easier?
If people on the defensive are out scissoring me, do I learn how to fly it better or learn how to control closure and shoot better?
Its not a scissors unless you miss.

Urchin · « **Reply #29 on:** June 09, 2004, 12:37:02 AM »

... I look at someone starting out high and on my 6 as an even fight. They aren't going to be able to kill me without at least giving up that initial slt and speed advantage, and if I can force a rolling scissors while they are giving up that advantage.. unless they can do it better than I can I'm going to win.

Now, in the MA that doesn't nescesarily hold true, since the first guy is usually just trying to pin you down so the 2nd through 5th guys can take easier shots at you, but in a 1v1 it is not always true that starting out higher and faster is an advantage.