Kursk?!

[Ike 2K#]

Does HTC and CT-ers have plans to make a "Kursk" map?

[Batz]

There is a "kursk" map. The question is will HTC ever have the VVS planes and Vehicles so that a "Kursk" setup can be run. There is also a Stalingrad map but AH lacks the planes to run it.

We are limited for the most part to late east front setups.

We have a Kurland map about ready (Baltic Oct 44 - May 45). The only other VVS map that can be run is Finrus.

[B17Skull12]

I am making a map for warsaw 1944 for CT use, but i dont think it will ever see CT action:) .

[Batz]

A map that includes anything from the Vistula to the Oder (Poland 1945) would be able to be used. Provided its laid out right.

Heck a scenario based on the Vistual-Oder Offensive could be done.

Heres the Soviet Ground OOB:

Vistula-Oder Offensive, Jan. 1945

Page 415 - "Stalingrad to Berlin" by Ziemke - shows Russian positions (north to south) for 13 Jan 45 as:

First Baltic Front:

- 43rd Army (Generaloberst Beloborodov)
[Haupt has this unit with 3rd Belorussian Front]

Third Belorussian Front: (Armeegeneral Tschernjakovskij)

- 39th Army (Gen.Lt. Ljudnikov)
- 5th Army (Gen.Lt. Schafranov)
- 28th Army (Gen.Lt. Letschinskij)
- 11th Guards Army (Generaloberst Galitzkij)
- 31st Army [not listed in Haupt]

Second Belorussian Front: (Marschall Rokossowskij)

- 50th Army [not listed in Haupt]
- 49th Army (Gen.Lt. Grischin)
- 3rd Army [not listed in Haupt]
- 48th Army [not listed in Haupt]
- 65th Army (Gen.Lt. Batov)
- 70th Army (Generaloberst Popov)
*- 5th Guards Tank Army in Reserve (behind front) (Generaloberst Wolski)
[Haupt lists 2nd Shock Army (Generaloberst Fedjuninskij) also]

First Belorussian Front: (Marschall Shukow)

- 47th Army (Gen.Lt. Perchorovitsch)
- 1st (Polish) Army (General Poplawskij)
- 2nd (Polish) Army [not listed in Haupt]
- 5th Shock Army (Gen.Lt. Bersarin)
- 8th Guards Army (Generaloberst Tschuikov)
- 69th Army (Generaloberst Kolpaktschi)
- 33rd Army (Generaloberst Zwetajev)
*- 1st Guards Tank Army in Reserve (behind the front)(Generaloberst Katukov)
*- 2nd Guards Tank Army in Reserve (behind the front)(Generaloberst Bogdanov)
*- 61st Army in Reserve (behind the front) (Generaloberst Belov)
[Haupt: lists 3rd Shock Army (Generoberst Simonjak) also]


First Ukrainian Front: (Marschall Konjev)
- 6th Army (Generaloberst Gludsovskij)
- 3rd Guards Army (Generaloberst Gordov)
- 4th Tank Army (Generaloberst Leljuschenko)
- 5th Guards Army [not listed in Haupt]
- 52nd Army (Generaloberst Korotejev)
- 60th Army (Generaloberst Kurotschkin)
*- 13th Army in Reserve (behind the front) (Generaloberst Puchov)
*- 3rd Guards Tank Army in Reserve (behind the front) (Generaloberst Rybalko)
*- 59th Army in Reserve (behind the front) (Gen.Lt. Korovniko)
*- 21st Army in Reserve (behind the front) (Generaloberst Gussjev)

Fourth Ukrainian Front:

- 38th Army
- 1st Guards Army
- 18th Army

NOTE: (commanders name) - this information I got from appendix 11 (page 350) of "Army Group Center - The Wehrmacht in Russia 1941-1945" by Werner Haupt. The date info is quoted for is 16 Jan 45. 4th Ukrainian Front is not listed.

Read these 2 books.

From the Dnepr to the Vistula by Col. David Glantz
From the Vistula to the Oder by Col. David Glantz

Heres a link to a Heereslage Ost map (map that the OKH based their daily reports on)

http://photos.yahoo.co.jp/ayane1994

Click on the Vistula-Oder  14 Jan 45 map (click on the map again for a large hi res map).

[Jester]

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