Also, I noticed that the terrain seems to be fuzzy or shimmer at higher altitudes. I get that freeze too when meeting other aircraft, and it seems to do it a bit when i am dogfighting. i just got a new comp, a dell 8200, 256Ati card, 3Ghz, 2gig RAM, and the game runs crappy, at least I think. I only get 40fps on low-res with no other planes in the area. When I hit the stall buzzer, or black-out...it stumles and freezes abit. It seems like beta17's overall quality got worse, but didnt help performance at all.