Took a walk on the wild side

[Arlo]

Originally posted by bj229r
[B I view an arena with consistently less than 20 guys as a FIGHTING/furball arena, where one might get the coveted "One on One" fight that rarely happens in MA without 3 spits and 2 LA7's jumping in. [/B]

There ya go again. Why do you expect 1V1s in any arena except the DA? Just because there's between 30 and 40 players there (which is about what the CT had at around 9:30) doesn't preclude you from having to deal with more than one opponent at a time. That's what SA's all about.

You made a comment on the open channel last night about not being able to fight one on one. I told you then that you had unrealistic expectations and you refused to accept that as a viable reality.

Earlier in this post you mentioned that there were also players flying high and using alt to their advantage. Is it not possible that they were avoiding having to deal with odds greater than 1v1?

Then there were those of us that gleefully entered the fray as the odds see-sawed back and forth and kept our heads on a swivel. Some of us even alted the other way before diving into it (guess that's a combo of cherry-picking and furballing - dive in to pick off someone - stay there to try to get some more ).

If you want an honor fight that's co-alt/1v1 ... stick with the DA or just fly ladders.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Grits
The difference is, in the MA the suicide-auger-fuel-porking-plant-the-flag-horde tards is the standard form of play. When they leave the MA (because Pizza is up, or a reset is near) then the CT temporarily has tards. As soon as they go back to the MA the CT is once again free of tards till the next Pizza rotation.

And here I am actively trying to recruit more players to the CT.

[bj229r]

yah, if i were outnumbered id be flyin high for sure--no arguement there--mebbe i havent been in there enough over the months to get realistic sample, but i tried both sides last night ( i hate IJN planes, but cant stomach flyin with 12 against 4 or similar)--anyhow, VAST majority of times ive been in CT, mebbe 15 guys total, most of em trolling around at 15-20k waitin to jump on someone--that cant BE any more boring. Guys like Shane fly on deck and dARE ya to attack em--that heap more fun, even if Shane does kill me 19 outa 20

[Grits]

I should have put some  after that. I should know by now that sarcasim doesnt translate very well on a BBS.

I would hope (only my opinion, not a statement of fact about how things "SHOULD" be) folks come to the CT because it offers a different[/b] style of play from the one the MA has to offer. If they come to the CT just to do a smaller version of the MA, then IMO you have lost the reason detre for the CT to exist.

I of course would like to have more CT'ers too Arlo, and ask folks to try it at every opportunity.

[Arlo]

Shane's pretty good. And he'll push the envelope as far as he can take it (believe it or not ... sometimes he pushes it a tad too far. Sometimes. )

I dunno. I've gotten where I don't expect anything other than the other guy to kill me the best way he can. And if he vulches or gangs or anything else that limits my options drastically I take it as a compliment and mentally chew myself out for putting myself there to begin with. And ... you bet your boots I'll do it to others when I occasionally get the chance. But it ain't as challenging as the other way around.

It's all about fun. For me ... it's all fun. Challenge is fun. Taking advantage is almost as fun. Even when dealing with the guys who can only have fun if they play the "RISK" version of AH (Gotta take territory. That's the focus of the game. Gotta do it.) I can have fun. I may ask someone why they don't try something else on occasion .... but even then I'm learning just to ignore them .... and have fun.

[Grits]

Originally posted by bj229r
Guys like Shane fly on deck and dARE ya to attack em--that heap more fun, even if Shane does kill me 19 outa 20

I am in no way comparing my skill to Shane's, but that is about the only thing I do in the CT, low level furballing. Maybe I dont see the alt monkeys because I am too low, donno, but I rarely see anyone above 15k, and most of the time under 10k.

[B17Skull12]

Grit you mean for 2 weeks straight?

Big Isle err i mean Bug Isle  is pizza+1/.02*100=?? and that is how much worse than pizza it is.

[Fauxbra]

Well everyone seems to be bashing the MA ...But i would like to hear what you all think makes the CT so wonderful. for example why are you upping a plane in the first place ? what are you intentions with each sortie? tell me what CT nirvana is to you. And also please post a list of Rules of CT Edicate for us Dweebs

[Grits]

Never flown in Big Isles. Only map I have any serious time on is the one with the huge crater in the middle where the Tonka Toys play. That was before I found the CT and didnt know what I was missing.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Fauxbra
tell me what CT nirvana is to you. And also please post a list of Rules of CT Edicate for us Dweebs

Etiquette has nothing to do with it, really. More a common sense thing.

If someone is porking the FHs or captures one of two fields where 70% of the players in an arena are upping and having fun dogfighting from (and it happens to be a pretty good position to get back into the fight in less than 10 minutes from) ... and is asked to go bomb/capture a different base ... and the porker/grabber responds with "derrrr ... the game is all about capture and all you guys wanna do is furball." ... then perhaps that player has social issues.

There's generally usually a dozen or more other bases he could pork/capture on the map if his goal is really to play "RISK" ... and that's fine by me. Hell, if he want's to ignore requests from other players and continue to pork capture wherever the big fight is, that's fine too. It'd be nice if the other players on his side balance things and come over to shoot him down repeatedly until he figures his solo campaign isn't gonna accomplish much other than his getting killed alot (if indeed his side is has numbers. If it doesn't- he should be dying alot as it is). Of course .. on some maps he may just hop to a near shore battery that has range and angle and shell the other base to pieces. LOL I've seen that too.

As far as organized missions are concerned. Fine by me. If a squad or an entire side decides they want to destroy/capture a place - sounds good. But it seems like it would be boring as hell if that squad/side didn't have a fair amount of opposition during the mission. That's why I'm all for mission nights that involve both sides planning a strategy and carrying it out .... and coordinating it, to some degree, with each other. If we want surprise involved then allow for some lattitude and flexability in multiple targets. It's fine to keep the other side hopping and guessing ... when there is another side, that is.

But no ... there's no written rule or implied guideline to follow. Players do what they must. Some out of fun. Some out of frustration. Some just to be jerks. So no rules of etiquette per say. Just some risk of p|ssing off others who may have the skill, foresight and desire to make that player's life a little more miserable than it already is.

As far as what "CT Nirvana" is .... or more appropriately .... what specifically makes it more appealing than the MA (since player actions often mirror one to the other) - it should be obvious: a better chance for immersion. The sides and terrains are set up to portray historical or alternate-historical settings that don't involve Spitfires dogfighting Spitfires over an alien planet (No .... the Gobi desert doesn't count as an alien planet ).

[Grits]

Originally posted by Fauxbra
Well everyone seems to be bashing the MA ...But i would like to hear what you all think makes the CT so wonderful. for example why are you upping a plane in the first place ? what are you intentions with each sortie? tell me what CT nirvana is to you. And also please post a list of Rules of CT Edicate for us Dweebs

Fauxbra,

Please do not take my comment about "suicide-auger-fuel-porking-plant-the-flag-horde tards" to mean JG3, it was not directed at you guys. The two times I have helped JG3  take an enemy field (latest time was last week), not a single one of them augered (although, being the super dweeb that I am I did auger) during the process, and they were the fastest and smoothest captures I have participated in.

Yes JG3 specializes in base capture, but they do it with a bit more style than the "one hour 'til the MA resets" crowd does.

[Fauxbra]

Originally posted by Grits
Fauxbra,

Please do not take my comment about "suicide-auger-fuel-porking-plant-the-flag-horde tards" to mean JG3, it was not directed at you guys. The two times I have helped JG3  take an enemy field (latest time was last week), not a single one of them augered (although, being the super dweeb that I am I did auger) during the process, and they were the fastest and smoothest captures I have participated in.

Yes JG3 specializes in base capture, but they do it with a bit more style than the "one hour 'til the MA resets" crowd does.

Grits...dont sweat it buddy. ive figured out by now who dislikes JG3's tactics and who accepts them. And just for the record we only totally porked a field once as long as ive been a member and that was last week i believe and only because we decided to head to the dreaded MA and because we captured the base without using Ordinance and the base was located in a far corner of the Map. We usually only take down the VH and the Ack. Ive seen entire weeks in the CT revolve around to fields that lie close to one another. seems like the map makers went through alot of wasted time and effort when that happens. The CT to me seems like a Snapshot of time in a War with no objectives. And i think that has more to do with the fact that there is hardly ever more than 40 players on at any time. And it cant just be the planeset because in the MA i see lots of guys flying 109's and 190's and know of a  squad that flys the 110. Its not the Planes its the boredom IMO.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by Eagler
..unplayable on my machine. So I went to HyperLobby and fired up FB

Get Ventrillo at

http://www.ensignsoftware.com/tips/tradingtips41.htm

couple of us have a full time server going so we can have full time vox, normally on Greater Green getting shot down whilst admiring the eye candy and peering a that little dot that flashing behind one.......

Anyway - if you get ventrillo email me and I'll send you the ip address etc.

[Grits]

Originally posted by Fauxbra
Ive seen entire weeks in the CT revolve around to fields that lie close to one another. seems like the map makers went through alot of wasted time and effort when that happens.

And if nothing changes, this week will be almost strictly between 11 and 10.

[Reschke]

One tiny change happened this morning. The Japanese pushed south and actually captured a base. They are attempting to cut off the Allies up in the northern section and have V39 as a GV base to use against A40. It appears that should have an impact on gameplay now. At least this was the scenario as of 10am on the 14th.