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Offline Nefarious

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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2004, 06:06:46 PM »
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Really?  Which time was that?



Anytime before 9/11/01

Look, it was sad that he got away. But if we were so close in the Fall of 2000 then why wasnt he actively pursued in the Winter or the Spring and Summer of 2001. Looks like it was a mistake for both administrations.
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2004, 06:07:29 PM »
Actually, there is some evidence suggesting Pearl Harbor wasn't a complete suprise.
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« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2004, 06:09:31 PM »
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Actually, there is some evidence suggesting Pearl Harbor wasn't a complete suprise.


There was evidence about 911 as well. :( It just didnt all get put together and go to the right people in time, just like Pearl Harbor. Which is/was (depending on your perspective)  the big point of the Patriot Act...
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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2004, 06:13:00 PM »
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Anytime before 9/11/01

Look, it was sad that he got away. But if we were so close in the Fall of 2000 then why wasnt he actively pursued in the Winter or the Spring and Summer of 2001. Looks like it was a mistake for both administrations.


Because at that time we never would have gotten the support of congress to invade Afghanistan.   Attacking another country is a little different than a nation offering to hand him over, and us saying "no thanks".
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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2004, 06:19:05 PM »
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How much of an impact our disputed election and the resultant delay in new governent  formation (think thousands of appointmests to key posts) had on any terror concerns or general international concerns late in 2000 and early 2001? Certainly I feel it distracted us and focused us inwards...


But it was also necessary. Some may still diagree with the outcome but in a democracy it is of the utmost importance that election results are transferred into the government correctly and exactly like the voters want it to be.
I feel that unless you want to break down the fundamentals of democracy discussing this delay is a moot point.
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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2004, 06:29:03 PM »
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Because at that time we never would have gotten the support of congress to invade Afghanistan.   Attacking another country is a little different than a nation offering to hand him over, and us saying "no thanks".


Which never happened.
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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2004, 06:30:43 PM »
You guys still don't get it.  OBL is just a man, he himself isn't that dangerous.  The network he runs is however.  It's more important to take this down then him.
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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2004, 06:40:11 PM »
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But it was also necessary. Some may still diagree with the outcome but in a democracy it is of the utmost importance that election results are transferred into the government correctly and exactly like the voters want it to be.
I feel that unless you want to break down the fundamentals of democracy discussing this delay is a moot point.


Of coursre it was neccesary. Pardon but It seems you cant get away from assuming that Im meaning more or something sinister. I just asked because it was an intresting topic to discuss. :)
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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2004, 06:41:00 PM »
No pres could have acted before 9/11, no one would support it. We are not an aggressive nation, so it takes alot for the population to agree to aggression.Hillary Clinton was giving a speach trying to get support for action against saddaam, but was run out of the building to chants of "no blood for oil". You think Bush would have gone after Iraq w/o 9/11? It would have been political suicide. OBL gave us the opportunity to finish him. Now let's finish OBL and get everyone home.
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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2004, 06:41:08 PM »
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Which never happened.


Nah, never happened.

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« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2004, 06:43:26 PM »
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No pres could have acted before 9/11, no one would support it. We are not an aggressive nation, so it takes alot for the population to agree to aggression.Hillary Clinton was giving a speach trying to get support for action against saddaam, but was run out of the building to chants of "no blood for oil". You think Bush would have gone after Iraq w/o 9/11? It would have been political suicide. OBL gave us the opportunity to finish him. Now let's finish OBL and get everyone home.


Great post.
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« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2004, 07:35:48 PM »
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A Presidential order has been in place to KILL Bin Laden for over 7 years now. I wonder who gave that directive???

You guys need to read a freakin book.

Yeah, and then when they told Clinton they had Bin Laden, Clinton told them not to kill him. Basically Clinton lied about the order to kill Bin Ladden, as the CIA report states....Clinton ordered him to be taken alive.

Only Clinton's revisionist history states that they had an order to kill Bin Ladden.
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« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2004, 07:38:33 PM »
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You probably also read how the Sudan had him giftwrapped and Clinton said no thanks...

that's BS too.


Really? Would you care to hear Clinton himself explain this on tape?


http://newsmax.com/audio/BILLVH.mp3
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« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2004, 07:55:39 PM »
Does no one remember this video clip from  a few years ago? I believe it was out not long after the WTC bombings. I specifically remember the watch he was wearing and the way he was holding the mic so that the watch was visible. It was speculated that this was a sign to operatives of some sort, as he had never been filmed with a watch on before.

I'll qualify this by saying that I can't watch this piece on Mozilla, and don't feel like starting IE just to see it, but that pic at the top of the article was enough to jog my memory.


If this is true, is MSNBC manufacturing news?
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March 16: NBC has exclusively obtained secret CIA videotape of what is believed to be Osama bin Laden a year before 9/11.
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« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2004, 08:05:30 PM »
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If this is true, is MSNBC manufacturing news?


Could be...it's a well-known fact that the New York Times does!
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