Author Topic: outside view. (Read 571 times)

thrila · « **on:** March 19, 2004, 04:42:46 PM »

Could we have it enabled pretty please.

With the new damage effects it would be really nice to see my shotup plane in all it's glory.

Fariz · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2004, 04:55:24 PM »

Film your sortie, then use outside views in a film viewer.

acepilot2 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2004, 06:32:49 PM »

no ah2 film viewer yet

Fariz · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2004, 01:16:48 AM »

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Originally posted by acepilot2
no ah2 film viewer yet

I see.

May be it is a good idea to make outside views available for planes which are on the ground and not moving in AH2? This way pilot can get a "visual check" on his plane before refueling/rearming. In real life this information could be given to him by his ground crew.

thrila · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2004, 06:16:08 AM »

just incase of any misunderstanding-

i don't want outside view when AHII goes live, but just for beta.

Stratocaster · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2004, 06:59:42 AM »

I agree we need outside veiw in Beta to give full report

icemaw · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2004, 02:09:53 PM »

Try offline mode for f3 view.

Stratocaster · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2004, 02:35:57 PM »

We want it online so we can see while interacting with damage model with other real players

Waffle · « **Reply #8 on:** March 22, 2004, 03:54:35 PM »

Go interact with Ack

Kweassa · « **Reply #9 on:** March 22, 2004, 05:12:35 PM »

I agree, that a external view enabled for beta server would be good.

Not many people play in the AH2 Beta currently, and any gaming done in there is pretty much minute - more of individual testing and checking out here and there of what the graphics are like.

In that sense, giving externals in the AH2 Beta arena to attract a bit more people so they may enjoy the eyecandy, could be a good idea.

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If you want to checkout how the visual DM works out, try this: turn ground ack lethality to minimum, and land at an enemy base in offline testings. Pretty impressive, I must say! I saw holes and scratches forming at the very place the white 'ping' landed.

Halo · « **Reply #10 on:** March 22, 2004, 07:32:45 PM »

Yes yes yes, outside view for online and offline, all aircraft and vehicles. AH is such a treasure -- what a waste to conceal much of its glory in only cockpit views online (except for bombers).

Arcadish? A cliche. It is VERY difficult to fight using outside view. Yes it might give better battle perspective and SA. Good. It's a GAME that needs all the enhancement it can get.

Much more fun to fly to battle in outside view, at least occasional glimpses, and then stay inside cockpit for fights.

Learn from MS Flight Sim 2004. Get the rights to their outside views which are the most intuitive and best in the business.

If nothing else, develop an invisible Wonder Woman unarmed recon plane to allow flying around and observing all the battle panoramas like the world's greatest air combat movie. That would be as much fun as fighting only from inside the cockpit.

Geez, USE all the resources AH has. Not allowing exterior viewing online is a terrible waste of resources and game appeal. The gorgeous spectacle of WWII aircraft in exterior views is the best feature of Fighter Ace (which I dropped after a month because in most other aspects it was not the equal of Aces High).

Kweassa · « **Reply #11 on:** March 22, 2004, 10:01:56 PM »

Whoa, disagree there Halo.

I'm guessing by the context of things you're suggesting the use of external views even when the game is settled down and really starts a competitive online arena?

Cobra412 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2004, 11:45:17 PM »

I could see maybe allowing external view once your plane is on the ground and thats about it. The only reason I say this is in the event you know you've taken some hits and wanna check it out for damage reports only.

So lets say your got in a fight and are thinking about reupping, you could make a pretty decent decision based on how many rounds you took if you can fly again. Since not all rounds inflict immediate impact on how your plane might fly but could very well determine if it's only gonna take a few more rounds to lose a wing or something.

I say get rid of the whole damage list that you can bring up now. If the visual displays are going to be fairly accurate why would you need them? Take some hits in a fight? Once it's over do battle damage assessment (BDA) on your aircraft. I'm not sure if the hits will be visible to a friendly but that'd be the best way to do it in flight. If not they should atleast be able to determine if your loosing oil, fuel or radiator fluid. With the current direction of the model at most you'd have to have them check for missing surfaces that you can't see right off. And you should be able to feel that when flying afterwards anyway.

The only time I find myself checking my damage list is if I took alot of hits and think I might have a pilot wound. But with the current model I doubt you'll need to check the list for that either. For folks who don't want blood then allow the damage list to be enabled for pilot wound checks only.

Halo · « **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2004, 09:06:35 AM »

Yes, Kweassa, I'm suggesting total external views all the time on and off line.

That's such a compelling feature I've never understood why some don't want it. External views are not worth squat in combat -- too ... external. Need that intimacy with the gunsight.

However, the present Aces High external views, good as they are, are not as intuitive and all-around excellent as the ones in MS Flight Simulator 2004, which should be adapted or imitated exactly (however the legalese goes) in Aces High.

AT LEAST introduce total external viewing for observers. Could even make that a muzzled and muffled option that the observer could do nothing but fly around, visible or invisible, and neither communicate with others (hence eliminating any spy or recon capability) nor do anything else to influence the action.

This would add a whole new dimension to Aces High and greatly increase its marketability. Could evolve a whole new generation of WWII combat flight sim ... spectators!

Imagine the pics and films that would result. Greatest publicity Aces High could ever get.

Cyber couch potatos. Gotta love that concept.

But not kidding. Total External Viewing would be great!