LTAR would like to have

[Howitzer]

4wing =441=    -  6801 Kills
4wing =416=    -  1241 Kills


8042 Kills Total.


And NO, you guys can't have the wirblewind... if what you are saying is true, and that thing has a constant rate of fire without the reloading, it would be almost impossible to attack from the air, and would even be a HUGE ground threat even to tanks close range.  If you perk it like a 262, then maybe, but not free.  

[simshell]

they make the ostwin look overdone

[Furball]

I thought u said we would talk if i found a squad with over 7500 kills?

What we gonna talk about?

[humble]

hmmm....

I've got 1345 in the last 4 months....been playing since 1999 (with afew breaks)....so....48 months times 336.25 = 16,140:aok

boy I love new math:)....but probably have 7500 easily

[MOIL]

Originally posted by Howitzer
4wing =441=    -  6801 Kills
4wing =416=    -  1241 Kills


8042 Kills Total.


And NO, you guys can't have the wirblewind... if what you are saying is true, and that thing has a constant rate of fire without the reloading, it would be almost impossible to attack from the air, and would even be a HUGE ground threat even to tanks close range.  If you perk it like a 262, then maybe, but not free.  

First off, congrats on the # of squad kills:aok
Thats awesome!
Second, the Wirbelwind doesn't have a high rate of sustained fire, it has to be reloaded when the magizine becomes empty.
Keep in mind ea magizine only has 20 rnds ea, 20rnds per barrel times 4. Furthermore, you cannot change out the magizine until both guns on one side are done firing or empty. Which makes the crew vaunerable to attack, ESPECIALLY if you have the sides down.
I do however like the idea that it possably be a "perk" vehicle like the Tiger, that way you have to earn it to use it. {which lucky for us, LTAR,  it wouldn't take long at all, with over 2000 veh ponits I'll choose the Wirbelwind}

[Howitzer]

Oh ok, thats fair then, if it cannot sustain fire.  I was misunderstanding your last post where you were noting how many crew it took to man, and that it could keep a constant rate of fire in the air.  I've seen you guys scatter out of that vh the second it pops with like a dozen osti's and it looks like freakin Bagdhad videos with all that tracer fire going up     If there were 3 more guns per vehicle out there, it would just be a wall of fire.  I'm cool with it, if it works how you mention.  

on your kills as well... I can only take credit for like 250 of my squad's though as its been a hectic month and I've been trying to learn more ACM stuff.  Getting shot down quite a bit      

Anyways, continue on with the discussion, if you need me I'll be back in the peanut gallery.

--Howitzer

[Dr Zhivago]

No reason to ask wirbelwind with reload handicap if you can have
this one...
http://www.leadwarrior.com/Lw35017h.htm

Specifications
Sd.Kfz.251/21 Fliegerabwehr Schützenpanzerwagen (Drilling)
Crew: radio-operator, driver, loader and gunner
Max Speed 32.5 mph
Armament: three MG151/15 or MG151/20  
Ammo: outer guns 250, inner 400 (500?), total 2000 rounds

Gun Specifications
Designation: MG 151/15 ( MG 151/20)
Manufacturer: Waffenfabrik Mauser AG
Caliber: 15,1 mm (20 mm)
Length: 1917 mm (1767 mm)
Weight: 42 kg (42,3 kg)
Muzzle Velocity: 850! m/s (790 m/s)
Rate Of Fire: 850 rounds per minute (780 rnds/min)
Round Types: Explosive/Incendiary, Armor Piercing, Armor Piercing/Electron Encendiary
Round Weights: 72 g (117 g)

[Red Tail 444]

hehe just what we need, an armored M16 with uber cannons.

Perked GV ride #2  

[MOIL]

Hahahaa
Boy, it looks like I stired things up again in the GV dept.
It's so funny that a lot {not all} of guys claim and boast about killing us GV guys and how EASY it is {which at times is very true} so I request a little something to balance it out and WHOA!!!  YOU GUYS CANT HAVE THAT!!!!
Now come on, if it's so easy to kill us, take down our hangers and carpet bomb us with your B26's & Lanc's, then we should be able to give ya one hell of a fight back or make ya think twice about that 300' bombing run?
If my memory serves me correct and from watching enough History channel, I have yet to see actual footage {and I've seen a lot} of bombers capet bombing GV's at 300' above the deck!
Thats all for now, thanks guys for all the great posts:aok

P.S. who's that standing in the front row of the peanut gallery? sit down please

[Heretik]

Okay, you guys can have those Wirbelwind-o-deaths if you promise not to shoot me with em.

[moot]

if turret crew were part of the DM..

[MOIL]

Originally posted by moot
if turret crew were part of the DM..

Part of the DM ?
Maybe I'm a knuclehead:lol

[Rino]

Originally posted by GScholz
That would be 80 rounds. Each of the four guns are fed by 20 round box magazines. If HTC model realistic reloading this vehicle will be a "hangar queen".

     Well if they modelled realistic reloading on the osty, where's
the truck convoy they'd need to carry that many 37mm?

[moot]

damage model?

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Rino
Well if they modelled realistic reloading on the osty, where's
the truck convoy they'd need to carry that many 37mm?

We've all looked.  HTC has looked.  There isn't any source that claims the Ostwind carried less ammo than it does in AH.  Everybody has been skeptical.  There simply isn't any evidence to back up the skepticism.

Unfortunately.



As to damage modeling, Another guy and I were plwying around in the AH2 Beta, me in a Mossie and him in an Osti, and I started straffing him with just the .303s so as not to actually damage him.  My .303s took out his main gun.