Author Topic: World Wide Petrol Price Comparison (Read 1796 times)

beet1e · « **Reply #45 on:** December 08, 2004, 03:53:25 AM »

Vulcan - we have a different system for charging for road usage. The pump price of road fuel is more than non-road fuel. So whereas I pay an iniquitous 86p/litre for road diesel (= NZ$2.30/litre according to http://www.forexdirectory.net/fxconverter.html ) marine diesel sold for the boats on the River Thames near here is priced at 40p/litre. And heating oil, which my car could probably run on, is only about 10p/litre. Farmers using agricultural vehicles that don't use the public roads can use whatever they like.

To know whether you're cheating, coloured dyes and other chemical signatures are added to the fuel. Just as in NZ there are big fines for disconnecting the odometer, here there are big fines if caught using red diesel in a car.

JB73 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 08, 2004, 10:53:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Heater
Wrong....at least in the Netherlands the avg. is app. 1 hour (due in part to heavy traffic) or app. 50 Km. (1.6 km to a mile)

50km is still shorter than 35 miles.

NUKE · « **Reply #47 on:** December 08, 2004, 11:15:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
and the fun part about that is?

The funny part is that Gshlotz thinks that the high taxes are only meant to "make" people not use the fuel as much. That's a pile of crap.

The tax is there to extract money for the government, not to limit the use. If they wanted to limit use, they could just give everyone a quota.

Gshlotz lives in a fantasy land, that's what's so funny.

AKIron · « **Reply #48 on:** December 08, 2004, 11:16:53 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
And please do not quote that moron ... please.

Better obey your fuhrer Nilsen. Sieg Heil!

NUKE · « **Reply #49 on:** December 08, 2004, 11:21:31 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz

The tax on petrol and diesel in Norway is an environmental tax. A way for the state to make us use less of it ... just like they do on alcahol and tobacco.

yeah, the high taxes has nothing to do with extracting money.

If they wanted to "make" you use less of it instead of making money, why not just have a quota for it's use?

I like hearing tales from this fantasy land.

-MZ- · « **Reply #50 on:** December 08, 2004, 11:45:52 AM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
The funny part is that Gshlotz thinks that the high taxes are only meant to "make" people not use the fuel as much. That's a pile of crap.

Governments do this all the time. They give tax credits for things they want people to do and raise taxes on things they think people shouldn't do or that impose a cost on society at large.

Norway's fuel taxes are so high that they are on the wrong side of the Laffer curve and could probably make more money by cutting the tax.

Krusher · « **Reply #51 on:** December 08, 2004, 11:57:44 AM »

My car gets 30+ MPG and I own a motorcycle that gets 53. The best part is I live 6 miles from work. If I wasn't afraid of getting run over I might even ride a bike when the weather is nice.

myelo · « **Reply #52 on:** December 08, 2004, 12:53:59 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Hope that satisfies your curiosity.

It does. Thanks.

SOB · « **Reply #53 on:** December 08, 2004, 01:04:10 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
...and the yanks will pay the same per mile as everyone else because of their 10mpg gas guzzlers.

That's funny, as I can recall I've only known four or five people who had cars that got that kind of gas mileage.

Nilsen · « **Reply #54 on:** December 08, 2004, 01:22:53 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
The funny part is that Gshlotz thinks that the high taxes are only meant to "make" people not use the fuel as much. That's a pile of crap.

No its not actually.

Nilsen · « **Reply #55 on:** December 08, 2004, 01:27:42 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
We have to buy it like everybody else. Of course the state could buy it and give it to us for free, but that wouldn't be very socialistic-environmentalist-loony now would it? Our government would never do that.

And please do not quote that moron ... please.

Yeah....ok. i didnt mean "we" as in the goverment.

But the state owns most of statoil still, or is the majority of that company public now?.....dunno.

And the oil is owned by norway (until it is pumped) and norway then sells the sectors to the highest bidder right?

Not my field tho so im not 100% sure.

Don't think NUKE is a moron btw, just a right wing nut.

Shamus · « **Reply #56 on:** December 08, 2004, 01:29:17 PM »

Anyone else find it odd that Mexico's crude oil costs are so high?

shamus

nevermind...forgot about PemCo, if the government owns the supply...boost the price, then its not a tax

Vulcan · « **Reply #57 on:** December 08, 2004, 03:18:55 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Vulcan - we have a different system for charging for road usage. The pump price of road fuel is more than non-road fuel. So whereas I pay an iniquitous 86p/litre for road diesel (= NZ$2.30/litre according to http://www.forexdirectory.net/fxconverter.html ) marine diesel sold for the boats on the River Thames near here is priced at 40p/litre. And heating oil, which my car could probably run on, is only about 10p/litre. Farmers using agricultural vehicles that don't use the public roads can use whatever they like.

To know whether you're cheating, coloured dyes and other chemical signatures are added to the fuel. Just as in NZ there are big fines for disconnecting the odometer, here there are big fines if caught using red diesel in a car.

NZ Diesel is around 75 cents per litre at the moment (28p I think?). I just paid for my RUC's, NZ$130 for 5000km. I get ~ 600km per 70 litres. So 5000km = ~ 583 litres, /130, so thats an extra 22 cents per litre. So the rough net NZ price per litre is 97 cents including road user charges and GST (VAT).

Man you guys are getting raped!

beet1e · « **Reply #58 on:** December 08, 2004, 03:34:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
NZ Diesel is around 75 cents per litre at the moment (28p I think?). I just paid for my RUC's, NZ$130 for 5000km. I get ~ 600km per 70 litres. So 5000km = ~ 583 litres, /130, so thats an extra 22 cents per litre. So the rough net NZ price per litre is 97 cents including road user charges and GST (VAT).

Man you guys are getting raped!

I get 500 miles/800km on a 55 litre tank in my Golf 1.9 GT/TDi.

But you're right - we are getting raped.

lazs2 · « **Reply #59 on:** December 09, 2004, 08:28:55 AM »

beetle... we have red dye diesel here too. It is for farming and not legal to run in road vehicles.

My cars do not get 10 mpg. My elky and Healeyu both get 12 unless I have my foot in it and then they drop to 6 or so... never 10. My Lincoln gets 23-24 no matter what.

I feel that the only way that any real alternative to gasoline ever happens is if there is a real shortage. I believe that I am helping this along and that the rest of you sissies are simply prolonging the agony.

Get with the program wussies.

lazs