Author Topic: F4U's (Read 1038 times)

Rafe35 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2004, 04:35:37 PM »

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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
All personal shots at me will be ignored, sorry, but trolling for a flame war doesn't work with me.

The Hog did well in Korea as well as WW2 these are facts. American pilots were quite well trained, and did very well in combat, another fact. Subjective speculations do not alter the facts. But really, what has historical data got to do with AH? I realize that AH is just a first person shooter with a WW2 fighter theme.

Maybe you didn't fly the Hog in the earlier versions of AH.?? I did, then I quit AH (because of work not the game), and have just came back in. The whining about the Hog in the early days was pathetic. HiTech then perked the C Hog and porked the FM on both the D and C. The new Hog is sluggish, plain and simple, very poor acceleration even with your nose pointed at the deck. That is fact. (I never fly the F4U-4 that perk plane icon is an invite to getting gang banged.)

It seems to me that HiTech also porked the FM on the NIKI, it certainly seems to blackout very easily. I guess it is easier to tweek the FM than perk the ride. HT has a customer base, and it needs to give a good gaming experience.

And that is why I fly the planes whose FM is most suited to the gang-bang or be gang-banged furballing MA. Those tend to be fast planes with big guns like the LA7, 190D9 and Pony D, now and then a 190A8 (with it's awesome firepower for busting PT boats). I take a C hog now and then for carrier attacks.

F4U Corsair did little successfully in Korean War, but alot MIG-15 shot them down easily and so they just did well as F-51D Mustang in 1950s.

Vought F4U-1C Corsair was the first Corsair to have 20mm M2 Cannon and only two squadron use F4U-1C during before WWII ended. Also, there couple problems on F4U-1C and they engine died couple times and also again their guns already froze when enter 15k Alt Feet. So, they stay under 10k and was better suited to ground attack mission like F4U-6/AU-1 Corsair. Only 200 of them were made in 1944.

opus · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2004, 09:20:41 PM »

The F4U1 is a great plane for the MA. If I can keep a 5/2 kd in it, the good pilots should be able to kick butt in it.

Squire · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2004, 10:32:51 PM »

#1 The Korean War F4U was the F4U-5 which AH does not have.

#2 If you want to see what the F4U could do in WW2 get out of the MA. It didnt fight P-51s and LA-7s it fought Japanese planes. Thats the cause I think for all the complaints about it being under modelled. Fly it in the CT or in a SEA event where it fights a historical opponent, ie, A6M5, Ki-61, N1K-2.

Grits · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2004, 11:19:58 PM »

Flown against its historical opponents, A6M2, A6M5, and Ki61, it utterly dominates them, just as it did in WWII.

CurtissP-6EHawk · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2004, 11:56:08 AM »

I think this post should be about the A6M5 not the F4U!
As far as FM tweeking, I think the zeros are a bit "tweeked" in damage model! I always get fuel leak hits on them. If the damage model was correct, those fuel leaks would blow up as it should! FM may not be padded but the damage model sure the he11 has to be.

Batz · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2004, 12:37:57 PM »

Its an A6M5b. Do a search you might learn something.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2004, 01:05:27 PM »

Or... you could have just told him about the extinguisher.

Rafe35 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 08, 2004, 02:43:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Squire
#1 The Korean War F4U was the F4U-5 which AH does not have.

#2 If you want to see what the F4U could do in WW2 get out of the MA. It didnt fight P-51s and LA-7s it fought Japanese planes. Thats the cause I think for all the complaints about it being under modelled. Fly it in the CT or in a SEA event where it fights a historical opponent, ie, A6M5, Ki-61, N1K-2.

Don't forget that AH don't have F4U-6/AU-1 and post war Korean War F4U-7.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 08, 2004, 03:13:10 PM »

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F4U Corsair did little successfully in Korean War, but alot MIG-15 shot them down easily and so they just did well as F-51D Mustang in 1950s.

The marines would argue that statement to death.

The F4u's kicked bellybutton in close support. Saved thousands of marine lives.

Rafe35 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 08, 2004, 09:40:59 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The marines would argue that statement to death.

The F4u's kicked bellybutton in close support. Saved thousands of marine lives.

That's true about Marines would argue statement to death, but what I read about Captain Jess G. Folmar of VMA/VMF-312 "Checkerboarders," was suprised to be jumped by two MIG-15 jet fighter. He was probably on the way "Bombing Mission" before two MIG-15s jet fighter and then Folmar managed to shoot down one of these "Famous" jets, but got shot at by the second Mig his plane went out of control and the Capt Folmar preferred to bail out than risk ditching. So, I think he got Medal of Honor for that, but I ain't too sure about that and he was flying either F4U-4 or F4U-4B.

Rafe

F4UDOA · « **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2004, 10:20:30 PM »

Actually it was 8 Migs to 2 Corsairs.

Fulmer was in a F4U-4B and his wingman was in a F4U-4 with .50 cals.

They used the Thatch weave were in the process off diving away when Fulmer was hit by 37 Mil cannon fire.

His wing was severly damaged but he did not loose control. He said it was difficult to control and bailed instead of risking a carrier landing.

I have the AAR report somewhere.

Rafe35 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 08, 2004, 10:38:35 PM »

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Originally posted by F4UDOA
Actually it was 8 Migs to 2 Corsairs.

Fulmer was in a F4U-4B and his wingman was in a F4U-4 with .50 cals.

They used the Thatch weave were in the process off diving away when Fulmer was hit by 37 Mil cannon fire.

His wing was severly damaged but he did not loose control. He said it was difficult to control and bailed instead of risking a carrier landing.

I have the AAR report somewhere.

Heh, Thanks for better info, F4UDOA and I did thought it was 2 MIG-15, but I guess Corsair History was wrong where I study it couple times.

Thanks!

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #27 on:** April 09, 2004, 12:36:00 PM »

There is a bias in AH community that the F4U was not a really good plane, but only kicked butt because it was flying against slow Zekes and other TnB type Japanese planes. Read above posts for details.

I would like to point out that the F4U is the only model in AH that has 50% of it's models perked. The unperked modles are an early and a mid war ride.

The Corsair above 400 mph still handles like a dream. I remember reading about some F4Us in Korea that went 2 on 2 with some Yaks, I think the model was later than the Yak 9, something like 10 or 11. The Yaks ate dirt.

In the MA the F4U early and mid war are expected to compete with the late war 190D9, Pony D, and LA7. And in the earlier versions of AH the F4U was quite competative (pre-perk, pre modified FM). And it while still is a competative bird I stick to the better non-perked aircraft in the game. That is the LA7, 190D9,
Pony D.

Why fly a mid war ride when you can have a monster?

Maybe if the C hog was cheaper, the perk icon was removed from the F4U-4 (and the cost lowered condsiderably), we would see a lot more Hogs and there would be fewer LA7s.