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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2004, 11:48:27 AM »
Anyone want to join me in starting a baby walker black market?

We all know if it gets banned it starts to be in damand!




God what a lame law, stupid parents will hurt their kids, even non stupid ones can have acidents. Blaming a kid taking a fall down stairs on the walker when the parent should have taken their head out of their ass,  is just stupid.

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2004, 12:11:07 PM »
yea ill join the market with you.....WE'LL BE RICH......RICH........

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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2004, 01:31:24 PM »
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3609723.stm

Canada has become the first country in the world to ban the sale, advertising and import of baby walkers.

"Canadians must know about the dangers posed to infants through the use of baby walkers," said Health Minister Pierre Pettigrew.

A voluntary ban on the walkers - essentially baby chairs with wheels - has existed since 1989, but continuing injuries prompted the outright ban.

The most common accident occurs when babies fall down stairs.

They have also been reports of infants being able to reach dangerous objects that would otherwise have been out of reach, said the minister.

Distance and speed

Baby walkers are designed for infants who are able to sit up but not yet able to walk.

They allow them to propel themselves around using their legs.

But baby walkers also allow babies to travel distances and at speeds their parents may not be accustomed to.

Babies have been injured and killed falling down stairs, and even falling into swimming pools.

Between 1990 and 2002, the ministry said, there were 1,935 reports of infants being injured using the walkers.

The health ministry said it had determined that young children "do not have the necessary skills, reflexes or cognitive abilities to safely make use of these products".

Though many companies have adhered to a voluntary ban on walkers, said the ministry, it had become apparent that walkers were still being sold at garage sales, online and by street vendors.

Safety inspectors would work with first-time offenders found in possession of baby walkers to dispose of them, a ministry spokeswoman told BBC News Online.

Repeat offences could be punished with a fine or seizure of the walkers, the spokeswoman said.



Lets just Ban the stupid parents who don't know that things with wheels and kids in them at the top of stairs are an accident waiting to happen. I guess I need to invent the bubble walker that allows children in them to bounce down hills and stairs.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2004, 01:54:30 PM »
I had an accident in a baby walker when i was a baby.  I was walking at a very early age, and used to go tearing around in the baby walker.

One day i hit the door mat and flew out the baby walker and into the glass window on the front door and cut my head open in 2 places.

Still have the scars and a line through my eyebrow from it.
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2004, 02:01:36 PM »
Apparently it's not just Canadians who feel this way, or just Canadian kids getting hurt...

The Dangers of Baby Walkers

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) feels that walkers should be banned from the United States because:

baby walkers put children at risk for injury and
there are no clear benefits from using a baby walker.
From 1989 to 1993 there were 11 deaths involving a baby walker. Each year over 8000 children are treated in hospital emergency rooms for walker-related injuries. Many more children are injured and go to their physician's office. Walker injuries can be serious, such as skull fractures, head injuries causing bleeding inside the head, broken legs and arms, and burns.


http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/pa/pa_walkers_hhg.htm

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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2004, 02:15:05 PM »
Wow, what a world its coming too

Well at least good ole shows like Road Runner and The 3 Stooges aren't considered too violent for kids.

Oh wait....:rolleyes:

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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2004, 02:23:47 PM »
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Are you guys suggesting that any and all products produced, even by the most unsavoury companies, should be freely bought and sold in the marketplace?

There has to be some sort of regulatory process to determine if something is dangerous...surely.

Let's assume a company made a product like Play Dough but if ingested it caused severe brain damage.

Hands off?  Would it be a nanny law to make that product illegal?


Yep, that'd be a nanny law.  

The company that sells it may be negligent if they do not properly inform you of the risks, but the ultimate decision to use that product is mine, not the government's.

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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2004, 02:47:13 PM »
thx 101ABN :)

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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2004, 03:31:00 PM »
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Yep, that'd be a nanny law.  

The company that sells it may be negligent if they do not properly inform you of the risks, but the ultimate decision to use that product is mine, not the government's.


Okie dockey...dissolve the FDA as well then.

Then make all narcotics legal.
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2004, 03:37:20 PM »
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Okie dockey...dissolve the FDA as well then.
  Worse things have happened.  Although we'd probably still want them (or a private sector equivalent) around as a research body to inform consumers of potential risks and benefits of drugs.  

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Then make all narcotics legal.
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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2004, 04:19:23 PM »
Yeah it does sounds a little absurd at first but then again if you had to start paying for 8000+ injuries a year out of your own pocket, the tune would change.

Stupid nanny healthcare sys.

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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2004, 04:19:23 PM »
That some of us survived childhood is a miracle.  One of my memories is of me and a buddy shooting steel tipped arrows straight up in the air as high as we could to see where around us it would land.  Don't even remember having the sense to stand under something solid while waiting the arrows return to earth.  :)   It usally landed withing 40 ft or so.

Just one of many activities and adventures that make me shake my head and wonder how we survived childhood.  I like to think my sons never did such wild stuff.

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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2004, 04:32:41 PM »
Lazs used to run with scissors when he was a kid.:rolleyes:

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« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2004, 05:16:07 PM »
When babywalkers are outlawed, only outlaws will have babywalkers.

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« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2004, 06:00:40 PM »
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When babywalkers are outlawed, only outlaws will have babywalkers.

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lol

I actually owned one right up until we moved into the new house.  We got rid of it due to the stairs.

It's all fine and dandy saying accidents happen because of bad parenting, but frankly many children have been lost or maimed as a result of a momentary lapse or a "freak" occurance.

I chose not to take the risk.  Accidents are by definition...accidents.
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