Author Topic: How to win in Iraq  (Read 1157 times)

Offline takeda

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2004, 01:55:19 PM »
My idea is better...
Who is the US going to transfer power to in June?
The Shia clerics? no way. Chalabi &Co? they would last 3 hours. Who else?
Since democracy seems to be hard to implement and you don't want the radical islamists winning any elections, seem you need some kind of Pakistani or egyptian like  secular dictatorship that will crack down hard on any revolts...
That's it! you got the right man for the job, . He's still around, quite experienced, just needs a shave and you are all set. I bet he's up for the job again.


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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2004, 01:56:13 PM »
We have American mercenaries in Iraq right now.  They are highly motivated.  

What short-term motivation do Iraqi soldiers have?  Hardly any.  

Its similar to the scene in Full Metal Jacket, where the Marines are standing around a corpse.  One of them says "If I'm gonna die for a word, my word is...."  Well, in this case, its money.

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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2004, 02:14:19 PM »
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Originally posted by takeda
My idea is better...
Who is the US going to transfer power to in June?
The Shia clerics? no way. Chalabi &Co? they would last 3 hours. Who else?
Since democracy seems to be hard to implement and you don't want the radical islamists winning any elections, seem you need some kind of Pakistani or egyptian like  secular dictatorship that will crack down hard on any revolts...
That's it! you got the right man for the job, . He's still around, quite experienced, just needs a shave and you are all set. I bet he's up for the job again.


:cool:
This would be funnier if it wasn't so true. :D

As to the thread title - win what? I must be missing something - I'm sure that nice Mr Bush said you already won. :D
« Last Edit: April 09, 2004, 03:18:16 PM by -dead- »
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2004, 02:15:59 PM »
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Originally posted by takeda
My idea is better...
Who is the US going to transfer power to in June?
The Shia clerics? no way. Chalabi &Co? they would last 3 hours. Who else?
Since democracy seems to be hard to implement and you don't want the radical islamists winning any elections, seem you need some kind of Pakistani or egyptian like  secular dictatorship that will crack down hard on any revolts...
That's it! you got the right man for the job, . He's still around, quite experienced, just needs a shave and you are all set. I bet he's up for the job again.


:cool:


...They already caught Saddam and hold him, maybe for such an occasion? I bet he gives consultation to the occupants now.

The whole idea of occupation was so absurd that I'll not be surprised.

Offline 101ABN

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2004, 01:18:54 PM »
the training and organization of the new Iraqi army is going well. there are 6 operational brigage combat teams right now. they have been involved in actions against insurgents and they have done well. the local population (where i was at anyways) support the idea of Iraqis patrolling the streets over US doing it. when i left we established a complete basic training post for new soldiers ran completely by Iraqi cadre.

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2004, 01:26:13 PM »
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the training and organization of the new Iraqi army is going well. there are 6 operational brigage combat teams right now. they have been involved in actions against insurgents and they have done well. the local population (where i was at anyways) support the idea of Iraqis patrolling the streets over US doing it. when i left we established a complete basic training post for new soldiers ran completely by Iraqi cadre.


It's always very nice to have the information from the first hands, thank you!

Can I ask you some questions?

Did you use the experience from US training of the South Vietnam army? Did you get any information from Soviet training and combat achievements of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan army? Can you estimate the combat value of the new Iraqi army?

It's really interesting, and if you have signed NDA - please feel free to ignore my questions.