Please, more info about FM changes .....

[gatt]

 

This version (0.43) starts a series of major changes being made in plane modeling. A lot will be changing over the next few versions so please be patient for all these changes to be fully and properly implemented

 

I've just tested in flight the 0.43 C.205 and MkIX. If I'm not wrong big changes have been made. MkIX initial climb rate is now about 3,500ft/min, with WEP it seems to be able to get 3,900ft/min. The "Veltro" initial climb rate is now down to about 2,600ft/min, with WEP it doesnt even reach 2,900ft/min (the old 0.42 climb rate w/o WEP). Again, I may be wrong and I'll test again the a/c behaviour tonite (GMT-1 here).

The point is: could the "readme" file or the "news section" of this BBS specify wich FM has been tuned and how?

This is an "open" beta but still a beta. IMHO, we wont be able to help if we dont know what HTC is modifing, tweaking and tuning. If we have to discover it on our own it will take a lot of time and wrong feedbacks from gamers.

 

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[juzz]

The Spitfire still climbs to altitudes in the same time, at 100% power. It might be a tiny bit slower. I didn't test the times with WEP power though.

The Bf109G-10 now takes just over 7 minutes to get to 20000ft, at 100% power. Ugh. (that's the time for an EMIL ffs!)

Climbing with WEP power on gives about the same time as in 0.42, BUT - for the last few '000 feet I had to manually fly it with about half right aileron input and full right aileron trim, just to stop the uncontrollable left bank it suddenly developed. Double Ugh.   (we get 10 minutes of MW50 injection now though  )

The C.205 is about 9% slower in climb than in 0.42 I think.

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[dolomite]

OTOH, the c205 I flew held its own against 4 bogies. I winged all of them some until they drove me down to the ground. I did 3 loops with a spit, him not able to gain anything (if it had not been for his buds he would have died). Nose bounce is appreciably dampened, and the plane is very flyable. The main problem IMHO is that they have taken a little too much off the climb. Every other plane in the set (aside from B17, C47, and Fw190) will climb above it with ease.

The 109 is a 'stang-killer, plain and simple.

The Nikki is a great ride, but be careful not to get caught low against a saavy Hawg driver.  

The F4U is faaaaaast!

I really don't think we'll see as much of the cancer called the P51...    (this is a good-natured jab; I kill more stangs than anything else!)

The Spitfire can hang on its prop- bagged a c205 trying a spiral climb over me as I lifted off a capped field. Just pointed the nose up and rolled my wings level with him.

More testing to go, but results so far have been promising...

Just two quick addendums... I did see a chute chasing a plane yesterday in the F13 area. The other thing was a Nikki suspended 15 feet above the runway at F24. Weird.

[Hristo]

Feels like 109 at 100% can't outclimb P 51. Always somewhere between 2000-2500 fpm with full tanks and DT.

However, when WEP kicks in, it is completely another story. Torgue is brutal though.

[gatt]

I think we have to wait more time to have realistic a/c behaviours.
The Bf109G-10 has an initial climb rate of 3,000ft/min, like the old C.205 ... a DOG that is. With WEP she get 3,900ft/min. Does it mean we'll have only WEP time to get realistic performance? .... hmmmmmm  




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[wells]

The George and 109 got climb rate and acceleration boosts.  Both are up 200-300 fpm in the middle of the flight envelope.  No other planes changed in that regards.

[Dingy]

Did some offline testing yesterday of the 109 and P51 flight characteristics.  I didnt have a stop watch so please forgive any inaccuracies  

P51 Loadout was 25% fuel, full ammo load, 109 was 50% fuel, full ammo, no add'tl armament such as gondolas.

Striaght line accelleration Test done at 10K and measured from 180 IAS to 300 IAS.  Results shown in seconds:

P51:  about 40 seconds
Bf109: about 33 seconds

Best sustained climb speeds for both planes seemed to be around 180 MPH IAS.  Set .speed to 180 for both planes and began climb from 5000ft.

P51: ROC 3.0
Bf109: ROC 3.1-3.2

One of these days I will get more precise with these measurements, but I just wanted a general idea of how these two planes compared.

-Dingy

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[Minotaur]

Anybody doing any "Otto" testing to see if it has changed?

Mino