Author Topic: It is Aug 6th 2001, YOU are the president, here is your intel brief, what do YOU do?  (Read 775 times)

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mmmm get them to check carry on luggage the same way they do in Europe......very, very carefully.


As though they would have done anything had they found a plastic friggin Spork in a carry on.
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immediatly force something that allows only members of my family to be elected president then abdicate the throne and spend the rest of my money on taiwanese potatos...

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Ironic, considering how now the US is wanting the UN to help with the mess created in Iraq and as many other countries as possible.



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Hell, all the money the UN made off the oil for food program you think they'd want to help.

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There are so many holes in the stories and spin since 9/11 on Iraq that it's amazing anyone can still argue for the war.


  So what should we have done?

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Keep sending the Taliban millions in aid to reward them for their success in the War on Drugs.

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There are so many holes in the stories and spin since 9/11 on Iraq that it's amazing anyone can still argue for the war.


  So what should we have done?


Slash,

Since I've had it pointed out in the past, since I'm not from the US my opinon dosn't count but just for you..

Finish the job in Afghanistan would of been good, along with putting in alot more resources to rebuild that country so it can have elections and install it's own government.

Work with Pakistan in attempting to shut down Al Qaeda, or atleast making it very difficult for them to operate successfully anywhere from within that region.

Terroism can't be defeated, that's been proven throughout history the best you can do is manage it. Imagine how much management you could pay for with the money spent on Iraq. 5 billion a month would certinly pay for alot.

Unfortunetly the two main reasons for invading Iraq. WMD's and Support of Bin Laden have proven to be incredibly false.  As well as all the adverse points caused by the invasion of Iraq and circumstances since. Along with the incalculable cost in human lives.

Another incalculable cost is the major fractions and breakdowns we have now between previous long standing alliances and cooperation in the world and the serious damage to US credibility. Which will take decades to restore.

These breakdowns will make any further actions for the war on terroism in any part of the world so much more difficult and costly if not impossible to carry out. As even the US can't go it alone in the war on terror. Having a coalition is criticle.

I've heard the argument for the war in Iraq is to create a honey pot so to speak for terroisits to get drawn to and then crushed with military force, which is a simple and excellent idea. True good to keep them busy in Iraq and fight them there.

However when you look at the broader and long term picture, one seriously wonders if the reverse to the honey pot strategy is actually happening.

I'm not anti US, just hate to see a long standing ally and friend alienating itself from the world.



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Finish the job in Afghanistan would of been good, along with putting in alot more resources to rebuild that country so it can have elections and install it's own government.


Since it is August 2001 and we have yet to be attacked in Manhattan and Washington, and we have just read the August 6 PDB ....You propose we launch an unprovoked attack on Afganistan and depose its leadership? ... You propose we rely upon our intellegence gathering ability and possibly kill thousands of innocents?  Then embark on nation building?
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Since it is August 2001 and we have yet to be attacked in Manhattan and Washington, and we have just read the August 6 PDB ....You propose we launch an unprovoked attack on Afganistan and depose its leadership? ... You propose we rely upon our intellegence gathering ability and possibly kill thousands of innocents?  Then embark on nation building?



NO, Slash was asking me what I would of done after 9/11
Well that was my understanding.



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