Dun Dun Dun.....notherone Bites The Dust!

[Eagler]

Originally posted by ravells
I hope you'll be cheering as loudly for the Israeli individuals who are assassinated who are just as brutal as Hamas.

Ravs

amazing statement rav
you don't see a difference? an Israeli child should die just as this muderous sandsucking scum did? you do not see the termination of this rabid animal as progress towards peace? he did not want peace as long as a jew was breathing. how do you deal with that - other than what was done?

[ravells]

Perhaps I made the point badly.

I think there are Israelis who are just as happy killing Palestinians as the other way round. That is Israelis who don't want to see any Palestinians breathing either.

But we don't get to know their names in order to personalise it, like we do with the Palestinians.

I am not a fan of Hamas, I think they're poisonous. But the reflection in the mirror exists on the other side.

The sooner those people start intermarrying and having kids the safer all of them will be. But of course that will never happen.

Ravs

[Gnslngr]

Originally posted by ravells
Perhaps I made the point badly.

I think there are Israelis who are just as happy killing Palestinians as the other way round. That is Israelis who don't want to see any Palestinians breathing either.

But we don't get to know their names in order to personalise it, like we do with the Palestinians.

I am not a fan of Hamas, I think they're poisonous. But the reflection in the mirror exists on the other side.

The sooner those people start intermarrying and having kids the safer all of them will be. But of course that will never happen.

Ravs

This is the thinking that has got the world in so much trouble it is in TODAY!

OH YEA "i dont support hamas but israel is EVIL"

A Killer was assasinated today.....SHOW ME were Israelis carried bombs onto busses and and blew themselves up.  Yea I've heard the storys of the camps and this and that.

BOTTOM LINE IS THIS:  This man was EVIL and NEEDED to Die.....

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Eagler
gixer
this nutbag did not want peace - he wanted the Israelis dead

he was a hinderance to the peace process - WAS being the key word now

please don't shed too many tears for the muderous scum

Israel - WTG!!!!

I think both sides are just as bad as each other. Terroists use (only effective weapon to them) suicide bombs Israel uses laser guided bombs, rockets and tanks, same result. Either way tit for tat violence is the biggest hinderance to any possible peace process. Killing Hamas leaders dosn't make the slightest difference someone else just steps up to the plate.

Untill the tit for tat violence ends there never will be any chance of peace in that region.

Oh don't worry, I'd shead more tears if someone scratched my Jeep then for a Hamas Leader.



...-Gixer

[Gnslngr]

Originally posted by Gixer
I think both sides are just as bad as each other. Terroists use (only effective weapon to them) suicide bombs Israel uses laser guided bombs, rockets and tanks, same result. Either way tit for tat violence is the biggest hinderance to any possible peace process. Killing Hamas leaders dosn't make the slightest difference someone else just steps up to the plate.

Untill the tit for tat violence ends there never will be any chance of peace in that region.

Oh don't worry, I'd shead more tears if someone scratched my Jeep then for a Hamas Leader.



...-Gixer

since your a fellow jeep owner I'll go easy but

suicide bombs Israel uses laser guided bombs, rockets and tanks, same result

how can you compare blowing up woman and children while shopping for dinner in a market to killing an evil man surgically (not sure if thats a word but you get the meaning) who has no more desire in the world but to kill jews

these people are terrorists (hamas) they KILL....nope...they MURDER...indescriminatly soley because they are jews.  

I realize what your saying but I think those are dangerous words.  

If a black guy killed a Klansmen that performed numerious lynchings would you say "blacks are violent people and probably deserved it" or would you say "way to rid the world of evil"

anyways....

<--93 YJ wrangleer what you got?

[Gixer]

I understand your opinon completely, agree letting off a bomb in a crowded resturant to cause maximum civilian casualties is a terrible act. However I do understand that's the only method they have of attack. Of course I don't agree with it.

Though a rocket fired from a helicopter into a busy street isn't exactly a surgical assination to limit civilian casualties. My opinon was that there will never be peace as long as the tit for tat violence continues, it dosn't get anywhere.

As for the Jeep, it's a modified 97 4.0L TJ. As we all know, real Jeeps aren't bought they are built



...-Gixer

[Staga]

Originally posted by Gnslngr

A Killer was assasinated today.....SHOW ME were Israelis carried bombs onto busses and and blew themselves up.  Yea I've heard the storys of the camps and this and that.

BOTTOM LINE IS THIS:  This man was EVIL and NEEDED to Die.....

How does it differ if person A blews up a bus with couple IDF soldiers in it (and kills 10 others by doing so) or if person B launches a rocket/missile to the house and kills Hamas fighters and 10 other humans?

I'm not sorry about that death (thought assasination as a politic tool is a bit dubious) but I also wouldn't care much if some palestinian would blow Sharon to the hell (Sabra & Shatila anyone?)

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Staga
How does it differ if person A blews up a bus with couple IDF soldiers in it (and kills 10 others by doing so) or if person B launches a rocket/missile to the house and kills Hamas fighters and 10 other humans?

I'm not sorry about that death (thought assasination as a politic tool is a bit dubious) but I also wouldn't care much if some palestinian would blow Sharon to the hell (Sabra & Shatila anyone?)

10 ppl?

this missile strike killed the murdering nutbag and one of his bodyguards

and as your example goes, it is a HUGE difference .. sry if you can not comprehend it
one slight fact - if the Hamas ftr/leader did not blow up the bus in the first place, their arses wouldnt be sitting with babba now...

[Capt. Pork]

Originally posted by Staga
How does it differ if person A blews up a bus with couple IDF soldiers in it (and kills 10 others by doing so) or if person B launches a rocket/missile to the house and kills Hamas fighters and 10 other humans?

I'm not sorry about that death (thought assasination as a politic tool is a bit dubious) but I also wouldn't care much if some palestinian would blow Sharon to the hell (Sabra & Shatila anyone?)

The Israelis, however forcefully, at the very least level their crosshairs on targets that are purely militant.
Palestinians don't bother with crosshairs of any sort. Their primary targets are Israelis civilians, with a preference for soldiers.

Furthermore, when those militant elders surround themselves with 'followers' to gaurantee  civilian casualties in the event of an attack, all for the sake of making the IDF look like the SS, it is the militant leadership that commits the ultimate crime.


Show me one example of Israelis aiming their missiles, seeing that there is no military target and then saying 'screw it, we're out here, we're ready to go, let's just go ahead and fire anyway.'

[Staga]

So what was the K/D ratio between israelis and palestinians now?

Eagler this is not the first time israel has been killing palestinian leaders. They don't mind if few civilians die at the same time; if you think otherwise... well propaganda is a powerfull tool when used right.

Capt.Pork, Guess who are the names in the list below:

Brigadier General Yiftah Spector, Colonel Yigal Shohat, Colonel Ran, Lieutenant Colonel Yoel Piterberg, Lieutenant  Colonel David Yisraeli, Lieutenant Colonel Adam Netzer, Lieutenant Colonel  Avner Ra'anan, Lieutenant Colonel Gideon Shaham, Major Haggai  Tamir, Major Amir Massad,  Major Gideon Dror, Major David Marcus, Major Professor  Motti Peri, Major  Yotam, Major Zeev Reshef, Major Reuven, Captain Assaf, Captain Tomer,  Captain Ron, Captain Yonatan, Captain Allon, Captain  Amn.

[Eagler]

staga

keep justifying the terrorist side for us pls

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Staga
So what was the K/D ratio between israelis and palestinians now?

Does it matter?

[Staga]

Eagler do you know who are men behind those names? Do you know what they have done and what are they doing?

[Gnslngr]

Originally posted by Staga
How does it differ if person A blews up a bus with couple IDF soldiers in it (and kills 10 others by doing so) or if person B launches a rocket/missile to the house and kills Hamas fighters and 10 other humans?

I'm not sorry about that death (thought assasination as a politic tool is a bit dubious) but I also wouldn't care much if some palestinian would blow Sharon to the hell (Sabra & Shatila anyone?)

its a huge difference.  Most suicide attacks take place to commit maximum carnage.  They are not targeted at military troops or military structure.  THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!

This spin just amazes me....IDF = SS stormtroopers  HAMAs = Freedom fighters

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Staga
Eagler do you know who are men behind those names? Do you know what they have done and what are they doing?

yes.