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« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2004, 05:50:23 PM »
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3.  Not all conspiracy theories incorrect.  Law of averages shows that some must hit on the truth.
 


And you choose to believe this one over the obvious conspiracy that is shown by the 33rd parallel passing thru Baghdad, Dealey Plaza, Roswell and area 51, while the 33rd level is the highest level in the Freemasons?

Pretty naive...

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« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2004, 05:56:30 PM »
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« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2004, 06:02:59 PM »
hmm.. strk...not exactly the same thing as raising prices on gas... What Cheny said was that when there is a glut of oil... the example being, when it was $24 a barrel and the arabs drop it to say $18 ... it harms domestic production..  it also never really is reflected in the price at the pump.

He proposed that the import oil be taxed (in this example) $6 to bring it to the current price so that the American oil bussiness (and exploration and industry) stayed viable.   Artificially dropping prices long enough to put the American c0ompanies out of  the game was what he was talking about as I understand it.  

Net results would not be an increase in gas prices..

the democrats are looking at it from an environmental viewpoint like gore (inventer of the internet and half the couple love story was modeled after)  who feels that $5 a gallon gas would rid us of the evil internal combustion engine much faster.

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« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2004, 06:27:26 PM »
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And you choose to believe this one over the obvious conspiracy that is shown by the 33rd parallel passing thru Baghdad, Dealey Plaza, Roswell and area 51, while the 33rd level is the highest level in the Freemasons?

Pretty naive...

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Im just saying that you cant dismiss them all out of hand.

As a freemason, I can honestly say that i have no idea what you are talking about.  And by 33rd level I think you mean shriners, who drive small red cars, wear funny hats and drink too much.  I dont worry too much about them.

And it isnt a conspiracy theory if the principal players (ala Prince Bendar) has acknowledged it on national tv.  Well its not a THEORY anymore, at least.

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« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2004, 06:35:09 PM »
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hmm.. strk...not exactly the same thing as raising prices on gas... What Cheny said was that when there is a glut of oil... the example being, when it was $24 a barrel and the arabs drop it to say $18 ... it harms domestic production..  it also never really is reflected in the price at the pump.

He proposed that the import oil be taxed (in this example) $6 to bring it to the current price so that the American oil bussiness (and exploration and industry) stayed viable.   Artificially dropping prices long enough to put the American c0ompanies out of  the game was what he was talking about as I understand it.  

Net results would not be an increase in gas prices..

the democrats are looking at it from an environmental viewpoint like gore (inventer of the internet and half the couple love story was modeled after)  who feels that $5 a gallon gas would rid us of the evil internal combustion engine much faster.

lazs


that doesnt figure because if oil was cheaper from overseas then we would buy that oil and not domestic oil.  Gas prices WOULD go down because the cost of crude goes down.

Cheney's oil tax scheme was simple trade protection for american oil companies.  The net result would have been higher fuel prices, which as we all know affects the price of EVERYTHING.  

OTOH the Gore idea was that higher gas taxes, liek those in Europe would raise revenue for mass transit while forcing auto manufacturers to develop more efficient engines - like the hybrids you like to disdain today.  

Let me ask you this - knowing that all a hybrid engine does is capture energy that would otherwise be lost, why doesn't it make sense?  Shouldn't we try to conserve all things, and not waste anything?

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« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2004, 06:38:04 PM »
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« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2004, 06:44:33 PM »
strk:

sorry 33rd degree, not level... just do a google on 33rd degree freemason and the truth will appear.

That you are a freemason explains a lot.  Obviously you are trying to manipulate the thoughts of those of us who are not freemasons but we are on to you.  Obviously, none of what you say can be trusted.

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« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2004, 07:29:33 PM »
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strk:

sorry 33rd degree, not level... just do a google on 33rd degree freemason and the truth will appear.

That you are a freemason explains a lot.  Obviously you are trying to manipulate the thoughts of those of us who are not freemasons but we are on to you.  Obviously, none of what you say can be trusted.

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hehe.  of course I must kill you now

seriously though the 33rd degree are the Shriners -the highest degree of freemasonry

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« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2004, 07:36:36 PM »
I have never read the Illuminati trilogy nor do I know anything about what is being said in this thread. I am blissfully unaware of the ongoing control of the world from behind the scenes as the rest of us drones carry on with the day to day drudgery of our pitiful existance. Reality TV is the way of the future. McDonalds serves wholesome meals at competative prices. We are all in good hands  .... with Allstate.

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« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2004, 07:37:38 PM »
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I have never read the Illuminati trilogy nor do I know anything about what is being said in this thread. I am blissfully unaware of the ongoing control of the world from behind the scenes as the rest of us drones carry on with the day to day drudgery of our pitiful existance. Reality TV is the way of the future. McDonalds serves wholesome meals at competative prices. We are all in good hands  .... with Allstate.


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« Reply #70 on: April 21, 2004, 08:57:52 AM »
yes... look at europe with its high gas prices... everyone is blissfully riding on mass transit (i hated it) and they are developing engines that run on bat turds for a penny a mile...

no.. give the government more money and they will spend it... most lilkely on some unfunded social program.  

Cheny's plan, according to the article was protectionist but only to level out prices.

Why couldn't the $6 dollar a barrel (in the example) be used for these noble bat guano research projects?

No... it all boils down to... for us little guys... the democrats will raise the price of gas much faster than any republican ever will.  

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« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2004, 09:19:45 AM »
Its pretty evident everyone in this thread needs to study alittle history of gas prices and presidents asking other countries to lower prices.

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/oil/gasprices.chronology.html#a1999

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« Reply #72 on: April 21, 2004, 04:35:59 PM »
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yes... look at europe with its high gas prices... everyone is blissfully riding on mass transit (i hated it) and they are developing engines that run on bat turds for a penny a mile...

no.. give the government more money and they will spend it... most lilkely on some unfunded social program.  

Cheny's plan, according to the article was protectionist but only to level out prices.

Why couldn't the $6 dollar a barrel (in the example) be used for these noble bat guano research projects?

No... it all boils down to... for us little guys... the democrats will raise the price of gas much faster than any republican ever will.  

lazs


That doesnt follow the facts because Cheney's plan would cause the price of oil to go form 16 to 24 per bbl.  The costs of gas would have to go up.  Should we be raising foreign prices to allow US companies to compete? I mean are we for free trade or arent we?  

when gas prices rise, everthing gets more expensive because shipping costs increase

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« Reply #73 on: April 21, 2004, 04:44:32 PM »
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Actually Canada is the biggest exporter of oil to the US.


Thats not correct.....it's not oil, but rather hot air and bull ****.

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« Reply #74 on: April 21, 2004, 04:49:17 PM »
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Bob Woodward - just a few minutes ago on 60 Minutes.  Saudi Prince Bandar has direct line to the white house - and told Bush* that oil prices would be lowered in the months before the election to ensure a strong economy.

Once Bush* is elected, prices go right back up again?  Are prices artificially high right now?  EIther way the GOPers are flat busted on it.

Oh, and Bush* gave the Saudis top secret/no foreign intelligence and informed THEM that we were going into Iraq BEFORE Colin Powell knew about it.  Why does Powell put up with that?


Israeli's are going to be pissed when they hear about this - they think they control the US not them damn stinking Saudi's!!!