Well I don't know about that last statement Lasz.  It seems to me that Ravs would probably be a liberal.  I think I would enjoy a few rounds at the sports bar with him just the same.  A great friend of mine is a world class chef, (cooked for Madonna, The BeeGees, Clapton etc. when they are in town) world class Jew, and a world class liberal and when we get together if we leave politics out we get along famously.  once we start talking politics I wanna fuggin kill him and he wants to world peace me.  what a nice tard.