Andy Rooney can kiss my behind

[guttboy]

Again Suntracker you are entitled to your opinions......

I still fall back to my earlier post about what an individual considers to be a hero.  You cant tell someone that they are "good citizens" or "patriots" and not heros......you are entitled to your opinion and are entitled to say as you wish, however, so are the others that feel that someone may be a hero to THEM.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Eagler
before he went senile he was funny, now he is just a sad old man

LOL Yup

Kinda like Al Franken

[Gunslinger]

[spiderman the movies theme song]

I still think all these attitudes are politcally based.  I dont limit the use of the word hero to just our military, there's alot of heroic people that never get mentioned.

I dont wear pink glasses I see what I see.  I serve my country with some of the finest and worst human beings I've ever had the honor of knowing.  I've met people I dont even like that would still "take that hill" with out thinking twice about it.

you want to tell me to take these people arnt heroic for doing their duty weather they agree with it or not....fine that's your opinion.

But you telling me that my opinion is manipulated by the media....well I tell you your wrong.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Gnslngr

does he even know that not all heros fire weapons and save lives.



all that considered Grunts are not effective grunts without LG....that means logistics...IE BEANS (chow)  BAND AIDS (Medical attention) BAD GUYS (intel...no laughs please) BULLETS (supply)

Grunts are just a big wheel with a bunch of different cogs that keep it spinning.

he is an idiot who doesnt even deserve this post from me.

Reminds me of a quote I once read. Unsure who said it but it makes sence.

"Amatures think strategy. Professionals think logistics"

[MrLars]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
LOL Yup

Kinda like Al Franken

Oy oy oy

[Montezuma]

He's got the right.

My War

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Montezuma
He's got the right.

My War

everyone has the right to critisize....its called free speech.  Just cause somone actually served in combat (even if it was as a journalist) does not give them any MORE or LESS right to talk about it or critisize others.

I still serve in Active duty.  Does that mean I'm more or less of an expert than anyone else who chose not to?  NOPE it doesnt.  Gotta disagree with ya on this.

from the article
"We must support our soldiers in Iraq because it's our fault they're risking their lives there. However, we should not bestow the mantle of heroism on all of them for simply being where we sent them. Most are victims, not heroes."

typical libral BS.  You are a victom....we should feel sorry for you blah blah blah.

[Silat]

Originally posted by Gnslngr

does he even know what its like to get 48 notice to deploy knowing that your wife is 8 months pregnant.

does he even know what its like to start college classes on off duty time to help better yourself to only have to drop them

does he even know what its like to be a reservist and have to put your carreer and family aside to do you duty.

does he even know that not all heros fire weapons and save lives.


 

I think he might know about service to his country.

Andy Rooney served with an artillery unit in WWII. He became a combat journalist for Stars and Stripes, becoming one of the first correspondents allowed aboard bombers attacking Germany. Not exactly a safe job. He was also one of the first correspondents to enter a concentration camp.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Silat
I think he might know about service to his country.

Andy Rooney served with an artillery unit in WWII. He became a combat journalist for Stars and Stripes, becoming one of the first correspondents allowed aboard bombers attacking Germany. Not exactly a safe job. He was also one of the first correspondents to enter a concentration camp.

so this means the constitution provides him more rights as a citizin than somone who had bad knees and wasnt aloud to serve?

there are alot o combat vets who utter political BS just like this that make my stomach churn.  Just cause they served doesnt make them any smarter/dumber than somone who didnt.

[SOB]

He didn't say that, he simply answered your question Gunslinger.  No need to twist Silat's words around.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by Maverick
stabby,

You never answered my question, I take it then you have no experiance.

I fully understand the volunteer forces. I have 24 years of being a volunteer.

Got to ask this Maverick, how does a front line serviceman on active duty who stands a chance of being maimed and killed feel about civilians, any civilians - I know how my buds and I used to feel was wondering how you guys felt.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by SOB
He didn't say that, he simply answered your question Gunslinger.  No need to twist Silat's words around.

I twist no ones words around.  To completly ignore the story and say oh he's a vet so he must be right is just blind.  To me if you just sit there and say he has the right to say that means you agree with him.

[SOB]

I think you need to read the thread again.  Silat responded to your question, you did put words into his mouth and give meaning to his post that wasn't there to begin with.

As for thinking Rooney has the right to say what he said, I sure as hell do, and I don't really agree or disagree with it.  You're welcome to interpret what I said however you like, though.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by SOB
I think you need to read the thread again.  Silat responded to your question, you did put words into his mouth and give meaning to his post that wasn't there to begin with.

As for thinking Rooney has the right to say what he said, I sure as hell do, and I don't really agree or disagree with it.  You're welcome to interpret what I said however you like, though.

so you take no stance whatso ever that our young men and woman that defend this country are heros.  Well that's fine.  I never said Roony didnt have the right to say what he said.  I said he didnt have any more or less right to say what he said just because he was a combat corispondent during WWII.

If what he's saying is wrong....its wrong....plain and simple.


as far as me putting words in silat's mouth...I posed a question to him....not made a statement for him.


EDIT removes foot from mouth....I see were I'm wrong here.  the questions I posted were more or less retorical....but oh well.

[SOB]

I've got no strong opinion on the article or Rooney.  However, I don't think being a member of the armed forces automatically makes you a hero - that's what I said in my first post.