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Offline FUNKED1

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« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2004, 11:42:39 AM »
GM finally figures out that America doesn't need 5 brands of rebadged Chevys.
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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2004, 11:43:46 AM »
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GM finally figures out that America doesn't need 5 brands of rebadged Chevys.


Yes they think we need 4... :rolleyes:

And again why on earth does the GMC brand exist?
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« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2004, 11:44:50 AM »
Cuz that "professional engineering" leads the pack in recalls
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« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2004, 11:50:23 AM »
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I'd LIKE to have a new truck to replace the old 1981 junker, but $37K is more than I can afford.


Check out and price an Nissan Titan. If you are serious with what you just said about car companies building the vehicles customers want then you should check out that truck. You will get one hell of a truck for $23,000-$26,000.... It's built in America too!

http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/ModelHomePage/0,,24367,00.html
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« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2004, 11:51:43 AM »
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Yes they think we need 4... :rolleyes:

And again why on earth does the GMC brand exist?


As near as I can tell, GM exists as some sort of make-work program for UAW, and to fill up rental and government fleets.
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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2004, 11:54:59 AM »
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Check out and price an Nissan Titan. If you are serious with what you just said about car companies building the vehicles customers want then you should check out that truck.

http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/ModelHomePage/0,,24367,00.html


Grun,
That truck is less than half the size of my current truck. The trailer I have is bigger than that truck by a factor of at least 4. Besides, that is a known problem vehicle. Nissan is paying wages so low in the plant where it is built the turnover is near the highest in the country. I need a truck with a GVWR of at least 10K pounds.
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« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2004, 11:59:10 AM »
Build a Titan on that website...add 4x4 and you creep up to $26k...then any addons...well, Im not done yet and Im well on the way to $30k.

Damn...no money leftover for carpet in the garage.  :p
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« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2004, 12:01:30 PM »
Oh yea, I see you have a real big dooly truck. :)

Well then it seems you are stuck as the high end US models are horribly overpriced. I'm shocked how quickly you can option up a big ford or chevery to near 40k....

Could you perhaps find a newer used one?
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« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2004, 12:05:05 PM »
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Build a Titan on that website...add 4x4 and you creep up to $26k...then any addons...well, Im not done yet and Im well on the way to $30k.

Damn...no money leftover for carpet in the garage.  :p


But look at the content you get at the ~$26,000 level, thats a great value.
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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2004, 12:07:37 PM »
Titans are pretty impressive.  I got a close look at them at the SF car show.  As far as manufacturing details and technology and fit and finish, no contest with the domestic stuff.  Can't wait to see Toyota build one in this class.  Sooner the better, America needs to get out of the auto business and use those resources in areas where we have competitive advantage.
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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2004, 01:47:37 PM »
Car & Driver TV (Spike TV on the weekends...I think noon time) had a re run of a big car show.  One thing that looked impressive to me was Honda's prototype truck.  Their SUT looks sharp.  Just dunno if Im ready for the sadness of a scratch in a $40k truck :D
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« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2004, 02:00:45 PM »
Pontiac Aztek, Buick Rendevous, Chevy Avalanche.....fugliest watermelon ever built on wheels.
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« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2004, 02:41:02 PM »
1 down (Olds), 4 to go (Chevy, Pontiac, Buick and Caddy)!
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« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2004, 02:47:04 PM »
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1 down (Olds), 4 to go (Chevy, Pontiac, Buick and Caddy)!


They are in fact worse off than GM. Despite having the Mustang and a large rear wheel drive car. Even the newest Fords I've driven were remarkably poor.

Especially their trucks. A good friend, a long time Chevy driver, had 3 Fords in three years. Two Powerstrokes and a V10. Even my old worn out 81 Chevy dooley would leave them sitting, towing or not. And all three got worse mileage than my truck. He's got a Duramax now, and it will eat Fords alive, both unloaded and fully laden/towing. The mileage is better as well. Another friend also owns a Powerstroke. Another low fuel mileage gutless wonder. Of those four Fords, and many others, none has been worth crap. My old dooley is a better truck, and my buddy's older Chevy with the much maligned 6.5 turbo will also out pull them, and beat them on mileage too.
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« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2004, 02:49:45 PM »
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blah oldsmobile hasn't died. GM prolly just decided to "kill" it to bring attention to the emblem. They'll bring back some "revamped olds 442 !!" or something in a few years. General Motors in my opinion isn't what it used to be. Except for the Corvette, what exciting cars do they have? The GTO? Remember all the hype a few months ago about the GTO coming out? The commercials on tv that wouldnt show anything except headlights surrounded in smoke from a burnout? Then they finally unvail it and it looks like a grand prix or grand am. GM is in decline in my opinion. Chrysler has been on the upswing for like ten years. They know how to design an EXCITING car. Not just fast, but fun looking. And they do it all the time. You guys seen the new 300m? or the crossfire? Wild looking cars.


Thats because they are ran by mercedes now.
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