Author Topic: Iraq Prisoner Abuse by US (Read 2991 times)

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:02:46 AM »

Westy
Is that the sam prison that the international red cross said was humane?

AKIron · « **Reply #16 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:06:53 AM »

Looks like they're just having a little harmless fun to me.

Replicant · « **Reply #17 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:21:12 AM »

Apparently a 1 star General (female) is facing a court martial over this, I don't know what will happen to the other persons involved.

Unfortunately this sort of thing does happen no matter what side you on. However, there is no excuse whatsoever and the book should be thrown at anyone involved. It's clearly broken 3 rules of the Geneva convention and if I saw our troops paraded like that I'd be absolutely furious.

Drunky · « **Reply #18 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:23:43 AM »

Strk,

Why is it that the only things you post about are negative?

Do you have any good feeling about anything that happens in this country?

Or is it just because Gore is not in power?

Your continued negative campaign against everything is quite amazingly, perplexing. Kinda like typing 'Bush*' everytime you mention the President. I really hope you haven't been doing that for almost four years now...that would seem a little obsessive.

Tilt · « **Reply #19 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:36:44 AM »

The ability for folk to totally mess up is astounding.............

Crass ineptitude in and around Fallujha, stupid flag thing and then this with pictures not only of obvious cruelty but in some instances pictures that have significant humiliation factor to any male of Islamic belief................

Gotta ask who is in charge of all this locally...............

Westy · « **Reply #20 on:** April 30, 2004, 10:50:08 AM »

"... the international red cross said was humane?"

No idea. Any reference to something on that?

Course any time any type of group inspects somewhere the people being inspected tend to put on a best face and sweep the dirt under the rug.

BTW, how "Few" are 17 people out of one company? I'll admit that 17 out of 150,000 is "a few" but not 17 out of just one company of military police? (17 being the the number of soldiers being investigated/charged for this)

Sixpence · « **Reply #21 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:09:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Replicant
Apparently a 1 star General (female) is facing a court martial over this, I don't know what will happen to the other persons involved.

Ya figure they would just use some common sense. We have people dying fighting resistance, so if you do something that causes more resistance, you get more people killed. I remember something about the Japanese surrender, as ships entered(Tokyo bay?), they were told, "If something charges at your ship, shoot it, but do it in a nice way"

A handful of nitwits does not represent the military.

AKIron · « **Reply #22 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:11:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Westy
"... the international red cross said was humane?"

No idea. Any reference to something on that?

Course any time any type of group inspects somewhere the people being inspected tend to put on a best face and sweep the dirt under the rug.

BTW, how "Few" are 17 people out of one company? I'll admit that 17 out of 150,000 is "a few" but not 17 out of just one company of military police? (17 being the the number of soldiers being investigated/charged for this)

You do realize that there is a difference between being investigated and charged? Of course there is yet another difference between being charged and convicted. What is the point of your question?

Udie · « **Reply #23 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:14:47 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
What is the point of your question?

america sucks

Torque · « **Reply #24 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:14:51 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Looks like they're just having a little harmless fun to me.

Bravo....

Sixpence · « **Reply #25 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:16:37 AM »

Looks like alot of those "Freedom Fighters"(mercenaries) are behind it.

"According to lawyers for some of the soldiers, they claimed to be acting in part under the instruction of mercenary interrogators hired by the Pentagon."

"Lawyers for the soldiers argue they are being made scapegoats for a rogue military prison system in which mercenaries give orders without legal accountability."

"One civilian contractor was accused of raping a young male prisoner but has not been charged because military law has no jurisdiction over him."

"But this is the first time the privatisation of interrogation and intelligence-gathering has come to light. The investigation names two US contractors, CACI International Inc and the Titan Corporation, for their involvement in Abu Ghraib.Titan, based in San Diego, describes itself as a "a leading provider of comprehensive information and communications products, solutions and services for national security". It recently won a big contract for providing translation services to the US army."

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:16:48 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Looks like they're just having a little harmless fun to me.

Honestly I was inclined to say the same thing. If I were in their shoes and Shatinmyfries was a prisoner I'd spend all day playing evil American.

1.) Ive read nothing of ANY phsyical abuse.
2.) The photo where the guy is standing on a box with wired tired to his hands and a hood over his head... the wires arent connected to anything... he just doesnt know.
3.) How else are you supposed to wartm people up for interrogation?

And last but not least...

4.) Frat boys have done worse... Send the camera to the Sig Pi house! VIOLATION!!! VIOLATION!!!

PS: If physical abuse did take place, Im sure the offending soldiers will be prosecuted.

AKIron · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:18:33 AM »

I was just yankin' the chain of a few anti-American bigots, all in good fun.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #28 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:19:12 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
I was just yankin' the chain of a few anti-American bigots, all in good fun.

SHH!

Sixpence · « **Reply #29 on:** April 30, 2004, 11:19:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
1.) Ive read nothing of ANY phsyical abuse.

"One civilian contractor was accused of raping a young male prisoner but has not been charged because military law has no jurisdiction over him."

So they can do anything w/o being held accountable.