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Offline Morpheus

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« on: May 07, 2004, 04:59:19 PM »
I have been thinking and reading this over... I am a computer dweeb and when it comes to having toyz. I have to have toys and lots of them.

Anyways, I have been doing some reading on these "At Home Servers" and just wanted to hear from you guys what you thought about them or if you have any info that may be helpful...

This place http://www.mirra.com/ offers some that seem to be good and aren't that pricey. Or are they? See, I dont know so that's why I'm here:)
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2004, 05:05:02 PM »
Morph you could build your own very cheap.
it really is not that hard.

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2004, 05:12:58 PM »
Im waiting...

Listening...

Go on:)
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2004, 05:14:54 PM »
It's not that hard Morph, just go ahead.

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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2004, 05:18:50 PM »
lol ok

u guys have any sources?

where how who what?
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2004, 05:22:32 PM »
Jeez Morph, there's nothing to it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2004, 05:24:09 PM »
lol ok forget i asked:rolleyes:
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2004, 05:25:01 PM »
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
lol ok

u guys have any sources?

where how who what?


Ok,

the quick down and dirty,

1.) What do you want to do with the server? i.e. games, work, file sharing, FTP, web server etc... (This will set the tone for the type of hardware you will need)

this sounds simple right ? well wrong this is where most people screw it up. think hard about what you want do to with the box. once you have that, then you can start looking at what you need to buy to build the box.

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2004, 05:40:21 PM »
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file sharing, FTP, web server


Can one do all of the above?

If so thats what I would like.

Listen u dweebs. I am fairly new to servers and running them ect. They dont teach this crap in a criminal law major. So give me a break... This "common morph its easy" stuff is anything but helpful but I guess is to be expected here in the Oclub:rolleyes:

Heater thanks for the info it is much appreciated sir.

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2004, 05:46:54 PM »
thanks to home servers hackers will never die :D

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2004, 05:59:33 PM »
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Can one do all of the above?


Yes.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2004, 06:04:28 PM »
in most cases yes a single box will do, for most home users,

the next thing you want to think about is storage space,

file shareing & FTP plus a Web server can take a lot of space and can get in to a lot of $$$$ when you look at high end stuff, but again for home use 200 GB or so should be enough (This realy depends on how much data you will have etc... example a DVD format movie can take 4-7 GB each). and if the data is high value (i.e. if can not be lost) then you will need to dubble that 200 GB bacause the drives will need to be mirrored etc...)

you can look at 2 diffrent type of Drive's

IDE = cheap in price, good preformance, but limited thru put etc...

SCSI = $$$ very High speed, High preformance Raid, Fiber bus etc.....

Next thing
who will be accessing the Server ? just home users, Samll group of people (10-15) or open to the public,

2 things here... Security &  Bandwidth  both cost $$$$$$$
the problem is you may need them both in most casees you will run in to both issues at some point.

I think you can see from this it takes a lot of thought to do it right,
the list can go on & on but just think about your want to do with it
in general for a public web server / FTP server
the following things play major parts in the sizeing of the box

Type & amount of Data
Number of users
how fast do you wnat the data to move (Bandwidth)

Viideo & audio become less of an issue as it not a factor for the output.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2004, 06:04:59 PM »
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Originally posted by MoRphEuS
lol ok

u guys have any sources?

where how who what?

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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2004, 06:30:33 PM »
WOW thanks Heater... Great info. I really appreciate the time you took. I will do some thinking and get back to you with some more questions.

Thanks again bud

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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2004, 07:51:41 PM »
MoRphEuS, I was looking at some network storage devices myself. Heres some info.

Mirra is basically a heavily modified Linux server though you never see the linux part of it. Its got custom softwware that makes it easy to setup and has file service features that make it resemble a NAS type storage device. At 399-499-799 bucks for 80-120-250 gigabytes of storage it aint cheap compared to just adding a disk drive. However it does have alot of features that makes it essentially a user friendly home NAS device. I believe it also has a built in apache server.

Here are some other alternatives. Some are more simple network/USB drives where as others are more like home NAS devices like Mirra.

http://www.techtv.com/callforhelp/print/0,23102,3677039,00.html

Main reason why I like these devices is because it moves my data off of my workstation and is quieter simpler than a home built system. Uses less electricity also.
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