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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2004, 12:45:56 AM »
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-18,000 USAF by 2005.


Yup....good bye recruiting shortages hello palice chase.


Seriously people what do you expect.  The military is full of fine citizens.  BUT, look were we recruit from.  Look at college kids and look at the things they do.  Look at our teenagers and some of the things they do that have been caught of "video".  

This is your military...the good....the bad...the ugly.

Is this a surpise?  If so you are SNOWED.  Do you think this sort of thing has never happend before?  If the anser is no please grab your ears and bang your head against your computer screen.

The difference is this:  We have high speed internet and digital cameras very plentiful.  You are going to see the ugliest sides of humanity almost as they happen.  

You have people that want to hide there head in the sand and politicise EVERYTHING.

Stabby you are correct....this watermelon is gonna happen....it wouldnt matter if Bush were pres.  It wouldnt matter if kerry were pres.  It wouldnt matter if George Washinton himself were CIC.

BUT think of it this way.  These people are a minority in the military.  Right or wrong this is not the norm.  The norm is you do your job.....you follow the rules....or you end up shackled in an orange jump suit.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2004, 12:47:51 AM »
Nevermind Sand...  Gunslinger beat ya to it.

The reason for it is, appearently, high speed digital cameras.
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2004, 12:48:56 AM »
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Aw crap....

Links.

Fine.... be like that.


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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2004, 12:50:29 AM »
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Nevermind Sand...  Gunslinger beat ya to it.

The reason for it is, appearently, high speed digital cameras.


Ok, FWIW... everything, and I mean EVERYTHING will be ok, so long as you provide lots of pics closely related to your avatar.

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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2004, 12:52:23 AM »
See Sand? Good try with your avatar.... But for every avatar related thread hyjack you get, I get another. You can't win.

;) Tumor
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2004, 12:54:52 AM »
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Nevermind Sand...  Gunslinger beat ya to it.

The reason for it is, appearently, high speed digital cameras.


That's not it. :)

We are becoming a long-distance warfighter. The american people have no stomach for seeing their children sent home in body bags. Look for less people in combat. More remote operated vehicles and more automated systems. I wouldn't be at all surprised in 25 years to see that the Air Force and Navy no longer strike anything directly. Unmanned vehicles and missiles will be the order of battle, followed by a smaller and smaller force of grunts (no insult intended).
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2004, 12:57:28 AM »
her names not kimmy its  Lynndie England
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2004, 12:59:23 AM »
In 25 years, we will have a US based strike force that can hit any target on earth within a few hours. We are developing land based aircraft that can reach orbit and deliver payloads anywhere, eliminating airspace  and foriegn base restrictions...while being pretty much invulnerable to any defense.

The only limit to our power will be the will to fund it.
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2004, 01:02:06 AM »
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Ok, FWIW... everything, and I mean EVERYTHING will be ok, so long as you provide lots of pics closely related to your avatar.

T.


Tumor my avitar is my past.  To be honest your avitar is my future.  (mostly a quality of life issue)

I work on ejection seats now for the USAF.  This gives me a broad range of perspective from being a ground pounder and a maintainer.  

Really though the US military.  No it does not revolve around digital cameras.  It revolves around people just like you and me.

Have you seen the video of the teenagers in vegas who are rich kids that go around beating the crap out of others.  Does that make sense.  It does if you remember being a teenager.  

I've trained alot of newbies in the military from the poor black kid who grew up in the projects to the rich white kid who joined to piss off his parents.  To take our troops today and lump them into one group is wrong.  We have all walks of life all creeds all religions both genders and all colors.  We get the best and the worst of society.  WE ARE held to a greater standard and for that I get total strangers shaking my hand and saying thank you for no other reason than doing my job.  Sorry for ranting tonite....maybe if you've served or no somone who has and talked to them you know what i'm saying.  It just deeply sadens me that the WORLD is paying that much light on this and the US is so politicising this.  

truth is its simple.....its war....wars ugly.....pople do bad things....doesnt make it right.....but to exploit it for personal gain is even worse in my book
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2004, 01:03:50 AM »
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In 25 years, we will have a US based strike force that can hit any target on earth within a few hours. We are developing land based aircraft that can reach orbit and deliver payloads anywhere, eliminating airspace  and foriegn base restrictions...while being pretty much invulnerable to any defense.

The only limit to our power will be the will to fund it.


Yep... and there won't be anyone riding these machines. :)
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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2004, 01:05:43 AM »
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That's not it. :)

We are becoming a long-distance warfighter. The american people have no stomach for seeing their children sent home in body bags. Look for less people in combat. More remote operated vehicles and more automated systems. I wouldn't be at all surprised in 25 years to see that the Air Force and Navy no longer strike anything directly. Unmanned vehicles and missiles will be the order of battle, followed by a smaller and smaller force of grunts (no insult intended).


You are very much correct.

I stated in a previous post that I work on ejection seats.  I've been told in so many words that the F-35 will be the last system I ever learn.  Main reason:  It will be the last manned tacticle system developed.  Its actually a common joke with new guys saying "the UCAV needs an egress final"
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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2004, 01:07:13 AM »
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her names not kimmy its  Lynndie England


Lynndie, eh?

K lemme try it out.

Lynndie.

Lyndieeeee.

Lynndieaaaa.

Lynndiooooooooh......

Gimmy some lynndie.......

Lynndelicious.....

GAWDAMMIT $%$# way to ruin a good thing.

Don't get me wrong, I still have the hots for her. But now I gotta rethink my plans.
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2004, 01:08:41 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2004, 01:12:01 AM »
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Lynndie England, 21, a rail worker's daughter, comes from a trailer park in Fort Ashby, West Virginia, which locals proudly call "a backwoods world".


I had to stop after the first line.....if that's not a steryotype (not saying its not true) I dont know what is.

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2004, 02:11:43 AM »
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Tumor my avitar is my past.  To be honest your avitar is my future.  (mostly a quality of life issue)

I work on ejection seats now for the USAF.  This gives me a broad range of perspective from being a ground pounder and a maintainer.  

Really though the US military.  No it does not revolve around digital cameras.  It revolves around people just like you and me.

Have you seen the video of the teenagers in vegas who are rich kids that go around beating the crap out of others.  Does that make sense.  It does if you remember being a teenager.  

I've trained alot of newbies in the military from the poor black kid who grew up in the projects to the rich white kid who joined to piss off his parents.  To take our troops today and lump them into one group is wrong.  We have all walks of life all creeds all religions both genders and all colors.  We get the best and the worst of society.  WE ARE held to a greater standard and for that I get total strangers shaking my hand and saying thank you for no other reason than doing my job.  Sorry for ranting tonite....maybe if you've served or no somone who has and talked to them you know what i'm saying.  It just deeply sadens me that the WORLD is paying that much light on this and the US is so politicising this.  

truth is its simple.....its war....wars ugly.....pople do bad things....doesnt make it right.....but to exploit it for personal gain is even worse in my book


Gun... FWIW, having worked with Marines, Army, and Navy the last 3 yrs, I have to say I find the USMC the most capable, well organized and "have it's **** together" service... peroid.  

However.. I was referring to Nash's avitar..not yours.  Hey, I love your avitar.  But Nash's gets me all hot and botherd :)

T.
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