Author Topic: P-38 needs a new skin (Read 1018 times)

Ecliptik · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2004, 12:31:54 AM »

I can certainly see an E, F, or possibly a G added to fill out an early war scenario role. The J seems the most obvious choice, but the performance of the later J's is so nearly identical to the L that I don't see the point.

Even though they only built one and it never flew in combat, maybe we could get a perked P-38K.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2004, 12:54:09 AM »

I'd rather see the G or even H model.

The K would be cool, no more Runstangs since we'd be able to chase them down.

ack-ack

XtrmeJ · « **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:43:21 AM »

I'm with AKAK on this one. Imagine chasing a P51D down with no doubt whatsover of it getting away... the whines ohhh the splendid whines. Get in tiptop shape AKAK, chan 1 is about to get a whole lot better:D

Pyro · « **Reply #18 on:** May 10, 2004, 12:45:47 PM »

I'm thinking either the G alone(or maybe with an early J) or the F and the H.

MaddDog · « **Reply #19 on:** May 10, 2004, 12:54:33 PM »

Batz · « **Reply #20 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:40:48 PM »

F and the H please,

They will do better in AH2:ToD.

Morpheus · « **Reply #21 on:** May 10, 2004, 02:41:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Pyro
I'm thinking either the G alone(or maybe with an early J) or the F and the H.

Muahahahah

Guppy35 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 10, 2004, 03:25:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I hope not. That's the crappiest P-38 of the lot. Slow, crappy vertical performance (any plane that can do a high yoyo can rope it) and it doesn't have combat flaps. It's only saving grace is that it's the best turn fighter of all the P-38s.

ack-ack

Lets watch that P38F talk Ack-Ack

My Nomad 38 was always a P38F with a bad left engine that leaked oil all the time with the guns misaligned too.

Loved that old "Miss Fire"

Dan/Slack

Shane · « **Reply #23 on:** May 10, 2004, 03:36:16 PM »

i'm laying odds on a G or H model since it wouldn't have to be so majorly reworked visually.

killnu · « **Reply #24 on:** May 10, 2004, 03:55:12 PM »

at this point i would take what ever they gave us.

~S~

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #25 on:** May 10, 2004, 04:44:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
i'm laying odds on a G or H model since it wouldn't have to be so majorly reworked visually.

The J looks like the L, but the G and H both look like the rest of the early models with the sloped back dual air intakes under the prop instead of the flat triple intakes of the J and L.

The reason for the difference in the intakes was that the J and L had core type (made like radiators) intercoolers with the cooling inlets below the props, while all of the earlier versions had the intercoolers in the leading edges of the outer wings.

So only a J model could be done without signifcant alteration of the actual graphic model, anything like a G or H would require a serious rework, as would an M, which would require a hump behind the pilot for the RO.

daddog · « **Reply #26 on:** May 10, 2004, 05:05:37 PM »

Looking forward to it.

Citabria · « **Reply #27 on:** May 10, 2004, 05:55:44 PM »

id put my vote on the p38F and p38H being most beneficial for varieties sake

though an addition of a p38J to the p38F and H would really make the p38 set complete the way the 109 set is. the J being a tad faster with no dive flaps or boosted ailerons would be a variation of performance between the H and the L.

P-38H is an excellent choice because it will make scenarios much more balanced when the setup is 1943 luftwaffe against b17s and p38H's escorting. also the mediteranean theatre used early model p38s long after the j and L was available.

Pyro · « **Reply #28 on:** May 10, 2004, 06:00:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Batz
F and the H please,

They will do better in AH2:ToD.

That was my first inclination, but the more I think about it, the more a G and early model J make sense to me.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #29 on:** May 10, 2004, 06:20:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Pyro
That was my first inclination, but the more I think about it, the more a G and early model J make sense to me.

The early model J meaning J-15-Lo and earlier, WITHOUT dive flaps? The only advantage of the early J over the G and H is power level, and that is handicapped by added weight.

Not much difference between the G and the H, and pilots of the 20TH and 55TH FG's told me that they had at least as many H models as G models, so I doubt it really matters.