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Offline jigsaw

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Plane crash near San Diego
« on: May 11, 2004, 10:18:22 PM »
This one hit pretty close to home. I've tried to avoid letting the cat out of the bag as for where I instruct at, but for the impact of this to really sink in it's necessary. Besides, I'll only be there for another six weeks or so (crosses fingers about the job interview next monday).

This is the email we got from our chief flight instructor this morning;

Students, Instructors, and Dispatchers,

Yesterday two Pan Am students lost their lives in a plane crash.  We talked
to their Chief Flight Instructor today and he filled us in on some of the
details.  It was two multi-engine private pilots performing one of their
"Route" flights to San Diego at night in a Piper Seminole.  Initial reports
indicate that there may have been some miscommunication with ATC which
caused the pilots to descend early.  The airplane struck the ground near the
Julian VORTAC.  Both pilots were in their early twenties, single, with no
children.

More information is available at:
http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/news/3291359/detail.html

Even though Pan Am is one of our direct competitors, the fact is that we all
lost two friends yesterday.  This is a tragedy for all of us.  Please be
sensitive to everyone's feelings.  We have a lot of Westwind students who
are friends with Pan Am students.  This is going to be especially difficult
for them.

We ask that you keep the speculation to a minimum.  We weren't there and we
don't know what went wrong.  Let's leave the investigation to the NTSB.

We have offered Pan Am whatever support we can give as a company and as
friends.  There may be a special memorial service for the pilots here at
Deer Valley.  We will keep you posted.

We ask that you remember the pilots' family and friends in your thoughts and
prayers.


Sincerely,

Westwind Management

Offline Yeager

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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2004, 10:44:05 PM »
damned sorry to hear this.  Flying is a wonderful business but within that wonder lies a terrible demon called terra firma.

To those young men, may their transition have been swift and kind.
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Offline gofaster

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2004, 12:39:11 PM »
Has a transcript of the tower log been released?  I'd like to know what sort of miscommunication could cause a plane to descend early.

Offline jigsaw

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2004, 02:16:55 AM »
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Originally posted by gofaster
Has a transcript of the tower log been released?  I'd like to know what sort of miscommunication could cause a plane to descend early.


No idea where to look for transcripts. NTSB report probably wont be out for a while yet. I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with theories on what happened, but I dont have enough info to do much other than speculation at the moment.

The only things I can figure as probable fact being, with two pilots of their experience level in a Seminole the workload would have been high and they were heading into an area where ATC would have been very busy. From there, any number of things could've gone wrong.

Of course the reporter chapped my behind when she said it was a "Seneca." I know it's a small matter, but really irks me when a reporter is in such a hurry to get their story out that they don't have the facts correct with an aviation incident.

This is gonna be one that I'm going to keep an eye on though.

The worst thing is, in this business people die every day. If you're in it long enough, odds are you will know someone that it happens to.