Dubya is in Troubya

[Gixer]

Originally posted by NUKE
posting links without commenting on them is pointless. The only meaning I saw in the first post was : "hey, let me parrot some news that I was  happy about"

Ah you mean like Ripsnorts endless cut n pastes?



...-Gixer

[NUKE]

yeah, any links or cut and pastes without an opinion or view. Why else post it? If someone thinks a link is interesting enough to post it, they must have at least an opion worth mentioning which could then be open for debate.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by strk
roughly you could split up the US po into thirds, with a third on the left and right and the third in the middle.  The middle third ends up deciding things but the reasons they vote the way they do is imo for more selfish, as opposed to ideological reasons.  

RWers of course, consider selfishness to be an idealogy, but I digress.

Im thinking its better to turn out 100% of your base, and this is something that the dems are not doing - evidence of this is Nader running to the left of everything, taking 5%

Hey strk, Nader might turn out to be Kerry's "Perot"

Nader knows he hqas no chance, he's just a spoiler and wants attention IMO

[Nash]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So as a liberal, I think you are far too generous in describing the current Democratic party as centrist.

Yer a librahl now? Damn, and I didn't even get an invite to the coming out party.

Clinton basically spent eight years furthing his own democratic agenda while co-opting every single idea the Republicans had and pushing those through as well. Did you actually think the right wing was pissed off because of the sale of some swamp in Arkansas?

That reads as pretty centrist to me. YMMV.

[SunTracker]

John Kerry is going to get his chance to fight the Iraqi War.  If his war policy is anything like the heroics he showed on the day he killed 20 vietcong, our troops will be home before christmas.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Nash
Yer a librahl now? Damn, and I didn't even get an invite to the coming out party.

Clinton basically spent eight years furthing his own democratic agenda while co-opting every single idea the Republicans had and pushing those through as well. Did you actually think the right wing was pissed off because of the sale of some swamp in Arkansas?

That reads as pretty centrist to me. YMMV.

I was reffering to you, and you know that...  But of course you are in your smart bellybutton mood again....  Whatever dude...

[Nash]

Okeee dokeee doood!

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by NUKE
Hey strk, Nader might turn out to be Kerry's "Perot"

Perot did not change the outcome of the 1992 presidential election.  Analyses by political scientists following the election concluded that Perot drew nearly equally from Republicans, Democrats, liberals and conservatives.

That is not to say that Nader will not influence the outcome of the upcoming election.  However, given his difficulties in obtaining the necessary votes to even appear on the ballot in key states, he probably won't play much of a spoiler role this time around.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Nash
I think it's because the Dems naturally want to win.

If Lieberman came out fresh in this campaign, then maybe.

But Lieberman = Gore.

Superficial? Welcome to the world of professional politics.

This along w/ Zel Miller is one of the few dems I really Like...>THE GUY IS HONEST.  

Nash I really hate to state this cause I dont want to start a flamage but I HONESTLY think Lieberman didnt get the vote cause he is a Jew.  That's just what I feel and I dont want to state my reasons cause I dont want this thread to drift off to somthing it wasnt intended for.  EVEN THOUGH ITS A TROLL TO BEGIN WITH.

Joe Lieberman seems to me like a Genuin guy....just like Edwars (except for the trial lawyer thing)  

Bush may have his haters but the Democrats are idiots for putting its eggs all in Kerry's basket.  The only chance I see for Kerry is if Mcain decides to be his VP.  That would be the end of bush.

[AKIron]

Dubya's only in troubya's if the Floridiya's learn to how voteya.

[Nash]

hehe

I kinda bet that Edwards is gonna be Prez someday.

But it's a perfect example here. Look at Gore/Lieberman's fate.

I think it's in his best interests to refuse any ticket and stick it out until 2008/12.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Nash
hehe

I kinda bet that Edwards is gonna be Prez someday.

But it's a perfect example here. Look at Gore/Lieberman's fate.

I think it's in his best interests to refuse any ticket and stick it out until 2008/12.

Edwards is a trial lawyer.  That's what he built his WEALTH off of and most people dont like that.

Q: What do you call all the lawyers at the bottom of the ocean
A:  A Good start

(sorry dune)

That's just how people feel lawyers are scum.

[Nash]

(pssst.... politicians are lawyers. They pass laws. I'm willing to bet 9/10 of them have law degrees).

And by capitalizing "WEALTH" or you saying wealth is a bad thing?

[lasersailor184]

No, don't worry, the world will not exist in 2013, so politics don't matter much.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Nash
(pssst.... politicians are lawyers. They pass laws. I'm willing to bet 9/10 of them have law degrees).

And by capitalizing "WEALTH" or you saying wealth is a bad thing?

No nash, I'm saying he made his wealth from sueing people and companys.

YES alot of politicians probably have law degrees and they write the laws wich is probably why there is "loop holes" and most people cant understand them.

I'm also saying if anyone has ever hired a lawyer for whatever reason besides felony conviction they have probably dispised their lawyer.  Even if they "won" their case they probably were disgusted at the amount of money they had to pay.