Author Topic: CV Denial (Read 2818 times)

Dago · « **Reply #30 on:** January 01, 2001, 12:00:00 PM »

I am sorry if I cant sympathize.
Couple nights ago, we were flying Rook and the rooks controlled 4 cv groups.

Yesterday, with almost 50 rooks on, we were getting killed, down to a few fields. I repeatadly tried to get rooks to do something, work together, and no luck. Hell, I couldnt even get a single rook to answer me when I asked if we were attacking anything. Repeated calls to rooks, not one answer.

So, our squad, (MOL) moved to knight. Enough of this nonsense, I hope and expect to get better teamwork with the knights.

Dago

Pollock · « **Reply #31 on:** January 01, 2001, 09:57:00 PM »

Swamprat change teams, get over it, or quit.
In a main arena you get what you get if you want to play on boats then change to a team that has boats. I friggin hate the aspect of "corsairs high" and constantly battling allied planes mainly chog no talent flying cannon dweebs. But it is what it is for those who pay if you dont like like then leave and dont pay...

SwampRat · « **Reply #32 on:** January 02, 2001, 03:29:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Pollock:
Swamprat change teams, get over it, or quit.
In a main arena you get what you get if you want to play on boats then change to a team that has boats.

ZOOM...right over another one's head.
Fergetit, obviously way to complicated an issue

Jochen · « **Reply #33 on:** January 02, 2001, 03:48:00 AM »

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One of the big reasons that HTC has put the perk points system in place is so they can use it as a tool to try and balance the arena a bit. Lets watch and see what HTC does, but I wouldn't be surprised to find that they'll use the perk system to help out. In that case it could be that you can beat one country down to 3 bases and no CV's, but then you would have to contend with a bunch of guys in P51 H's and P47M's. As a side benefit, some would switch sides to the outnumbered one just to get a chance to fly some perk planes or get more perk points.

Exceedingly great idea! It is true that if you are under attack by greater force you tend to have less chances of success so if you succeed you should gaing more perk points for doing that! That is practical and useful reward for being in tight spot and surviving.

This would also automatically balance the arena a bit, underdogs get better planes (perks) more easily and this helps them to redress the balance.

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Jimdandy · « **Reply #34 on:** January 02, 2001, 07:31:00 AM »

I'm not as worried about the CV's as some but I can see how one more CV with a port at HQ might help. The time zones seem to play a large part in the numbers game on AH. The largest differences in numbers I've seen on here are generally in non USA peek hours. That plays a major role in what you come back to the next day. As I said in another posting I've been playing this game way to much the last few weeks. I've observed the time zone peeks and valleys. If a CV group was tied to the HQ the other time zones could lose everything and you would still have a CV group.

Torque · « **Reply #35 on:** January 02, 2001, 07:36:00 AM »

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Originally posted by SwampRat:
"Whichever country has the fewest numbers gets no CV". That in itself leads me to believe that there are a LOT of players interested only in the easy fight. No offense to anyone but you know who you are. All I'm trying to say is, perhaps at least one cv should be available per country all the time. .

Hmmm ez fight and you know who you are? Sounds like that is what you want with a perpetual CV.

No reason to defend something you can never lose.

SwampRat · « **Reply #36 on:** January 02, 2001, 08:56:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Torque:
Hmmm ez fight and you know who you are? Sounds like that is what you want with a perpetual CV.

No reason to defend something you can never lose.

Good god. Go to origional post. For that matter, go read the "other" CV denial thread. Let me make it a bit clearer for ya'll who are so quick to jump in decide this is about gangbanging and whineing or self-pity. The point is, the G A M E offer's and advertises the use of Carriers. No Carriers means a large portion of the game is TAKEN FROM WOEVER DOES NOT HAVE ANY. THIS IS OK. Sink'em and send them back to port. What is NOT ok is having those carriers removed for EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. Think of those folks who 1) Have squads and loyalty to a country. 2) Are limited in time to actually participate in the game. 3) Are paying (perhaps) to participate in AH because it's the best sim around. 4) Really really enjoy carrier ops 5) Are denied the use of CV's because of one reason or another. Now your talking about taking a huge part of the game away. I'm still payin the same price right?
Further, there are MORE than one CV per country now..right? There have been suggestions of 1 being uncapturable. Suggestions of adding one near a Port for more durability...whatever.
I would have said the heck with it all, but after I witnessed 2 "sides" confirm..via open channel that thier INTENTION was to keep the other side down and without CV's for as long as possible and not go for the reset then..THATS when it became much more an issue of "bucks worth" and therefore WORTH the time to discuss further.

Sunchaser · « **Reply #37 on:** January 02, 2001, 09:56:00 AM »

OK SwampRat, lessee if I can somehow, after several failed attempts, figure out what your point is.

I will base my struggle for understanding on your most recent effort to enlighten the masses, ie: your most recent post above.

{Ain't the holiday period great? It frees up so much time for mental self improvement.)

You said:
"The point is, the GAME offers and advertises the use of carriers."

I will concede that point but could you please refer me to the part where HTC offers and advertizes that all countries are guaranteed carrier options 24/7?

I cannot find that part and if it does indeed exist I guess you are not just whining about having to choose country loyalty over the ability to drive or fly from CVs and concede your superior reasoning abilities.

OK, if we concede that you are right I request that HTC make 1 Bomber base indestructable and that any bomber taking off from it be invulnerable to attack until it reaches 15,000 feet.

I make this request based on the premise that HTC offers and advertizes the use of bombers and when my country has 2 fields left and some inconsiderate SOB {not you SOB from FDB.) bombs the bomber hanger on them I am denied my right to maintain country loyalty AND fly bombers.

This places much strain on my psyche and if a remedy is not forthcoming from HTC, I may have to refer the whole matter to my attorney.

If I have to refer the whole matter to my attorney my psyche will be further strained and indeed quite possibly permanently damaged due to my aversion to dealing with attorneys.

HTC, is there a disclaimer somewhere concerning psyche strain or damage?
If not you may be hearing from my attorney.

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Pollock · « **Reply #38 on:** January 02, 2001, 03:56:00 PM »

Brilliant reply Sunchaser, my letter writing stinks but I think we got our point across.
swamprat obviously was one of the disenfranchised ones who was prevented by stormtroopers and rabid dogs to get to his CV. And it depends on what mean by 'is' is for carriers can be or shall be available to all. Swamp rat dop you live in Palm Beach county per chance?

SwampRat · « **Reply #39 on:** January 02, 2001, 04:56:00 PM »

Ok Sunchaser
So what your saying is, it's grand to be able to concentrate on takeing all of one sides carriers, beat them back to a couple of bases then agree with the "other" side not to go ahead and finish the job and keep it that way for as long as humanly possible, lets say 2 days..or a week. In that..everyone on he side "in-the-bucket" is told by the "domination" types like yourselves and the "drivel prone" such as pollock to suck it up and live with it, or leave the game if they don't like it?
Ok thats fine by me, your point is made. I suggest you refer it to your lawyer based on your own self-evaluation.

Now lets see if anyone would like to add some reasoning pro or con to this issue rather than gratify themselves stirring up a flame war within the thread.
Good day
Swamp

SKurj · « **Reply #40 on:** January 02, 2001, 05:49:00 PM »

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Originally posted by SwampRat:
Ok Sunchaser
So what your saying is, it's grand to be able to concentrate on takeing all of one sides carriers, beat them back to a couple of bases then agree with the "other" side not to go ahead and finish the job and keep it that way for as long as humanly possible, lets say 2 days..or a week. Swamp

Not once seen this "agree with the other side" thing in AH. Seen it attempted in AW3, but alas it never works

Come on Swamp you reside in the same arena as we do, you know that teams do not form truces, sometimes when u are down it may seem like it.

The mob takes the path of least resistance, sad but true.

deal with it

AKskurj

wolf37 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 02, 2001, 05:49:00 PM »

to start with swamprat, the Knights and the Bishops did not agree to keep the rooks down to three fields.
as for always having one cv no matter what has happened to your team, how many fields your team has lost, how many pilots your team has on at the time, is just stupid.
gee, maybe when one team bombs and flatterns my teams city and HQ, well my team should have radar all the time no matter what. NOT

the idea here is to proteck your fields, and even if your team is getting gangbanged, you should still be able to put up some kind of a fight, I know the team I fly for can put up a fight, and I know the team I fly for does put up a fight. with or with out fleets.

Now I geuss it does not really matter what I say or what anybody else say's here, you are the only one that is right and understands what it is you are whinning about, and everybody else is just to stupid to know what you are trying to say.

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SwampRat · « **Reply #42 on:** January 02, 2001, 06:48:00 PM »

I Beg to differ guyz. I saw at least 3 confirmed responses to Cave's questions over open channel at the time I'm refering to, can't remember all but 1 was Rhino. Not saying this happens all the time, but it did happen and it lasted long enough to make an issue of it.

SwampRat · « **Reply #43 on:** January 02, 2001, 06:53:00 PM »

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Originally posted by wolf37:

the idea here is to proteck your fields, and even if your team is getting gangbanged

Actually the idea here is to prevent 30-40+ hours of part of the game missing.

And of course I'm always right..where you been? (Image removed from quote.)

SwampRat · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2001, 07:04:00 PM »

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Originally posted by SKurj:
Come on Swamp you reside in the same arena as we do, you know that teams do not form truces, sometimes when u are down it may seem like it.

When flyin Nit I saw MANY attempts by Knits/Rooks to get truces going and yes, didn't last long but it happened

The mob takes the path of least resistance, sad but true.

Yes very sad but very true.