here it is Curval,
I won that particular battle.
basicly it went something like this.
"so if I leave the seat up, and you go into the bathroom sit down, and fall in the bowl, thats my fault?"
"yes"
"but you didn't check, the seat position before you sat down"
"it should already be down"
"so it's the responsability of the last person to use it to insure proper positioning? not the person who is getting ready to use it"
"right"
"so if you leave the seat down and our son pisses all over it, then it's your own fault if you come back and sit on a pissy seat"
"no, it would be his fault because he should lift it before he pisses"
"no, you said it was the last persons responsability, you should have put it in the up position so it would be ready for him"
"how would I know a guy would be next to use it?"
"how would I know a girl would be next to use it?"
"that's different"
"how?"
silence
me "and one other thing, if someone closes the lid before you use it, you're cleaning up that mess, the female side of this argument is stupid, take responsability for yourself and check before you sit"
not only did I win the argument, but just to mess with the minds of other women, she leaves the seat up in the ladies room in public restrooms.