Author Topic: Kurt Vonnegut: "Cold Turkey" (Read 2245 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2004, 12:09:34 PM »

I wonder if anyone did really read mr. Vonnegut's essay.

so - I post it here as "cut and paste"...

Toad · « **Reply #16 on:** May 21, 2004, 12:16:06 PM »

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Changing World say that converting all of the US agricultural waste into oil and gas would yield the energy equivalent of 4bn barrels of oil, roughly equal to the volume of US oil imports in 2001. So oil tankers might soon go the way of tea clippers.

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2004, 12:17:12 PM »

Boroda, the article doesn't mention gas, oil or cars. Your thread has been hijacked.

As far as "In These Times", I have never heard of it. Here is the text from the "About us" page.

"In These Times is a national, biweekly magazine of news and opinion published in Chicago. For 27 years, In These Times has provided groundbreaking coverage of the labor movement, environment, feminism, grassroots politics, minority communities and the media. In These Times features award-winning investigative reporting about corporate malfeasance and government wrongdoing, insightful analysis of national and international affairs, and sharp cultural criticism about events and ieas that matter."

Boroda · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2004, 12:35:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Boroda, the article doesn't mention gas, oil or cars. Your thread has been hijacked.

As far as "In These Times", I have never heard of it. Here is the text from the "About us" page.

"In These Times is a national, biweekly magazine of news and opinion published in Chicago. For 27 years, In These Times has provided groundbreaking coverage of the labor movement, environment, feminism, grassroots politics, minority communities and the media. In These Times features award-winning investigative reporting about corporate malfeasance and government wrongdoing, insightful analysis of national and international affairs, and sharp cultural criticism about events and ieas that matter."

I have already re-posted the article in another thread.

It's a sign of time. In Soviet times I must have rushed for Vonnegut's wisdom regardless to any restrictions.

You guys are either too lazy or too afraid of your secret police.

Tarmac · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2004, 12:42:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
I wonder if anyone did really read mr. Vonnegut's essay.

so - I post it here as "cut and paste"...

Yes. What do you want us to do, post "I agree."

Well, I agree. His message is rambling and unfocused, but the individual points he makes are pretty true.

Nilsen · « **Reply #20 on:** May 21, 2004, 01:03:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Boroda, the article doesn't mention gas, oil or cars. Your thread has been hijacked.

Sorry...i think that was my fault. It was so much text on the link that boroda posted that i got overwhelmed

and took a wild guess at wat it was all about and took it from there.

Boroda · « **Reply #21 on:** May 21, 2004, 01:12:17 PM »

I asked about that magazine, and I didn't get any reasonable answer.

Thank you.

So I think that it's true that no US major national newspaper published Vonnegut's essay.

I am sorry that you guys have to learn how to live in Soviet environment.

I'll give advises for free for two months from now on. Later I'll take $.5 for an advise regarding your positive attitude towards "the country of winning Communism".

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #22 on:** May 21, 2004, 02:21:21 PM »

I read the article.. I thought it was good... Very de facto!

dude

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #23 on:** May 21, 2004, 02:23:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
I asked about that magazine, and I didn't get any reasonable answer.

Thank you.

So I think that it's true that no US major national newspaper published Vonnegut's essay.

I am sorry that you guys have to learn how to live in Soviet environment.

I'll give advises for free for two months from now on. Later I'll take $.5 for an advise regarding your positive attitude towards "the country of winning Communism".

lol Boroda... Thanks for the helping hand..

now stop stirring that pot my friend.. 8)

dude

strk · « **Reply #24 on:** May 21, 2004, 02:41:20 PM »

ouch dude, we arent that bad. Civil liberties takes some hits now and then but people fight back eventually, once enough get pissed off. Which is why, in my most humble opinion, I believe that Kerry is going to win in a landslide and Congress is going to follow on his coattails.

Ive heard of Vonnegut before but never read anything. He writes rellly well and is entertaining even if you don't like his viewpoint.

cigarettes - a fire at one end and a fool at the other - lol that is funny.

I think Im going to put the algebra quote in my sig line.

strk · « **Reply #25 on:** May 21, 2004, 02:42:17 PM »

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Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
I read the article.. I thought it was good... Very de facto!

dude

damn dude I never knew you were such a big lefty.

are you still flying or what?

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #26 on:** May 21, 2004, 02:47:25 PM »

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Originally posted by strk
damn dude I never knew you were such a big lefty.

are you still flying or what?

ya bro.. been flying a lot of late.. just really depends on what map is up.. How bout yourself?? Will try to look for you more.. 8)

hehe I dunno if i'm a lefty.. just have my feelings about right and wrong..

dude

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #27 on:** May 21, 2004, 02:50:32 PM »

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Originally posted by strk
ouch dude, we arent that bad. Civil liberties takes some hits now and then but people fight back eventually, once enough get pissed off. Which is why, in my most humble opinion, I believe that Kerry is going to win in a landslide and Congress is going to follow on his coattails.

Ive heard of Vonnegut before but never read anything. He writes rellly well and is entertaining even if you don't like his viewpoint.

cigarettes - a fire at one end and a fool at the other - lol that is funny.

I think Im going to put the algebra quote in my sig line.

lol I could have written the same thing about him.. I think I wanna put the part about the do unto others as... I had always thought that was jesus that said that.. (blind most my life, but trying) I wonder how many bible thumpers in here actually knew that statement came from confuscus (sp)...

dude