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Offline BenDover

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2004, 01:17:04 PM »
Frame rates are nothing like a hud, frame rates are there for people with salaries as big as their egos to say "Damn my comp is **** hot!" and people with crappy set ups to say "Damn my comp is ****!"
Frame rates don't effect your ability to make tactical actions.

E6B showing powered flight time remaining in a digital format that can be looked at instantly from any view is a HUD that will effect which tactical action you will take.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2004, 01:43:04 PM »
Come on ... your arguing semantics here.

The existence of our E6B in and of itself defies realism. From what I have gathered, back in the day, it would require a slide rule to calculate this stuff, yet we have it computed real time right in front of our faces.

The only difference in what kamori wants is the difference in the push of a key, to bring an impaired frontal view because a clipboard is stuck smack dab in the middle of the screen.

How about we make it more real and when viewing the clipboard, our view is forced to look down inside the cockpit and lose our total frontal view.

or ...

How about we only have the E6B available while flying offline. The only use that I can see for it is offline testing. I fail to see any tatical advantage that the E6B gives me.

Somehow the analog gauges that we have, seem to suffice quite nicely for knowing how fast I am going and when I need to go get some more gas.

Do I really need to know that I am going 350.7 mile/hour (.21 mach) and that I have 5.25 minutes left of gas at a particular manifold setting ?

I like Tilt's idea if E6B data is going to be the norm.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2004, 02:06:14 PM »
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Better Yet the ability to display the information In the same manner as the framerate information. I personally I would like to see the later.

The frame rate display doesn't hog the screen up.


And I'm all for removing it once AH2 goes live
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2004, 02:15:25 PM »
There's a difference between a digital readout on your screen and reading the gauges, as there is with bringing up the e6b on the clipboard. It requires that you "look". It's more then a simple button click as it takes your attention away from what's around you to view it. As it should be...

The AH2 clipboard is a fine improvement over AH1's.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2004, 02:27:58 PM »
What was the reason for not having the E6B?

I didn't quite catch that...

...and don't start with realism.
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2004, 02:30:46 PM »
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Come on ... your arguing semantics here.

The existence of our E6B in and of itself defies realism. From what I have gathered, back in the day, it would require a slide rule to calculate this stuff, yet we have it computed real time right in front of our faces.


I disagree,being a "plane jumper" I don't want to learn E6B for each plane I'll have to use.

IRL pilot where trained for one plane not several so the realism is already gone :)
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2004, 02:46:24 PM »
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I disagree,being a "plane jumper" I don't want to learn E6B for each plane I'll have to use.

IRL pilot where trained for one plane not several so the realism is already gone :)


Do you know the E6B data for each plane that we now have in AH I ? Did you need that information before E6B was introduced in AH II to survive/exist in AH I ?

I would hazard a guess as to your reply .. NO

So why do we need it now ? What is it really giving us that our analog guages don't already tell us ? What is the true value of E6B data ?

I am not proposing to get rid of it, but what the heck is the difference if the data is brought up on a clipboard or is displayed right on the screen ?

"Realism" is not an answer to this question, cause all of this does not fit into the realm of "Realism" in the first place.
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2004, 02:49:28 PM »
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Originally posted by Batz
There's a difference between a digital readout on your screen and reading the gauges, as there is with bringing up the e6b on the clipboard. It requires that you "look". It's more then a simple button click as it takes your attention away from what's around you to view it. As it should be...

The AH2 clipboard is a fine improvement over AH1's.


If thats the case, then we should be forced to look DOWN into the cockpit to view the clipboard and be forced not to see anything out the front windscreen. Now that would take your attention away ... as it should be.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2004, 02:52:52 PM »
Gsholz,

Great post....OK being a guy in the USAF that flys for a living I use the hell out of MY E6B!  We call it a whiz wheel and has not changed since the early days of aviation except for some of the inner windows that let you calculate certain things and the back has a higher speed scale for todays airspeeds.

With that being said...I can crank numbers out on that thing in seconds!  Do it all the time....as far as historically accurate...E6B's are...plain and simple..and they are in use today...GREAT IDEA!

As far as a hud thing...that is personal pref but I use it on the clipboard now and it is fine for me.

Great feature...I like it....

Regards....

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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2004, 02:53:31 PM »
FYI Slapshot being a typhoon and yak dweeb  I allways had to monitor closely my fuel :)

Even with full tank fuel is allways critical in those planes I never had the luxury some other player have , my primary concern is fuel , not ammo :(

E6B is a nice tool but I'll trade it for a burn multiplier less silly :)
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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2004, 02:58:04 PM »
There are no plans to move it from the clipboard.
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2004, 03:10:34 PM »
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Originally posted by Pyro
There are no plans to move it from the clipboard.


'Nuff said for me.
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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2004, 03:13:36 PM »
Lets call this what it is.

This thread seeks an advantage by having your digital airspeed displayed in what might as well be a HUD making it available in whatever direction you look, everyone would automatically turn it on as soon as they learn about it.  It's too gamey for me and could be used against new players who haven't been told about it so I am oppose.

If it weren't for the hours of testing the E6B saves in checking aircraft endurance for special events, I wouldn't want it available at all.  And that my opinion. :)

Edit: Darnit, Pyro got in before me again. :)
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2004, 03:31:41 PM »
I am not trying to prolong this thread or still argue the point.

Guttboy/Easyscor or anybody else ...

This E6B data is completely new to me. I understand what I am looking at, but please explain to me what positve effects this data will have for me in AH II while I fly in the MA. How can I use it to my advantage ?

Note: I do not fly bombers.
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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2004, 03:35:09 PM »
Low fuel, many kills, you want to make it back to base without running out of gas.  The E6B will let you know if you'll make it or not.  :)
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