Logitech Extreme 3D PRO

[LYNX]

I have created this post although it is in another thread.

Ok  I had it working with the logitech profiler set up in Aces but it went tits up again.  I had a system32 failure which really screwed with ALL game controlers.  So this is what I did......

After reloading XP home I uninstalled the 3D pro.  I then went to  C:\local\pragrame files\HTC folder\sticks and deleted the Logitech PROFILE I had created.  Yes, it was still there after the Uninstall.  I then went to Device manger and deleted Human Interface and Yes, Logitech was still the interface even after the original Uninstall.

I checked game controller to make sure nothing was loaded.  So, here i was with a CLEAN SHEET to work from.  I reloaded Logitech Extrem 3D PRO with the downloaded upgrade from their site.  Simple and quick to do.  I checked the controler in the load and after with game controler.   All was well and calibrated.  Then, and here's the punch line, I started AH off line went settings\ Joystick\ Joystick controller (NOT CALIBRATE). I set roll pitch throttle rudder and hat AXIS.  You HAVE to do each one individual.

Example...  on the LEFT side of the joystick Inputter (for want of a better or correct name) CLICK Roll CLICK Extreme 3D PRO in the centre section and then on the RIGHT Cick ROLL. Then Click SET INPUT (bottom right) then Click APPLY.

Do the above for each AXIS.  take to the air in the plane you have most experience with and wiggle the stick up and down left and right.  If you get the "Don't move stick so quick" You need to adjust dead band and dampening for each axis.  Now set Dead Band harder by about 1/3 and then set Dampening way high.. so about 1/3 the way up the slider.  Take to the air and wiggle away.  Adjust each Axis Dampener untill the plane feels right.  You may need to readjust Dead Band if it's to hard.

So, now online I found the calibration was just ever so slightly off. .  But being the head \ wall type of guy I calibrated:( .
You guessed it  RIGHT SIDE AXIS went TiTs:mad: .  I thought the guys at LOGITECH must be doing this-----> . SO, here's what I did.. I went backk into Joystick Inputer (straight away still on line) and reset Roll AXIS Inputs and calibrated again.  IT WORKED. .

Checking game controller it shows about 60% of right turn axis missing AGAIN but in ACES it's fine.  I have had to calibrate a couple of time over the last few days.  Same thing happens ... right turn axis goes TiTs but I then reinput axis and calibrate and it's ok.

Am not a computer geek so can't say why Extrem 3D Pro seems to have 2 roll Axis or that the AH calibrater hates the 3D PRO.  All i know is posted above.  I have a ****e stick and have gotten it to work.  All be it conviluted.   If you have this stick follow the above.  If your thinking of buying a stick.... well errm... "is this stick for you" ?

LYNX

[Happy1]

Hi LYNX     I feel ur pain & the problems with this stick  
I plan to file all 3 of mine in the garbage can, in the meantime, I've
had a lot of help from people on the boards to the point where I
can ACTUALLY enjoy a game w/o weaving or porpoising

Should u want, I'll be glad to send u my stick.cfg file, c if u like it &
have better success  

Cheers,

Happy1

[Halo]

Sorry you're having all the probs.  I'm not enough of a tech expert to help you.  

All I know is I've had several Logitech sticks, including the current Extreme 3D Pro, and consider them the best joysticks I've ever had.

[LYNX]

Happy1...   Thanks for the offer but i think i'll be buying a new stick shortly.

Halo .......... I have 3 questions for you.

Do you use XP?
Do you use the profiler that came with the 3D PRO?
Have you ever calibrated your stick in AH ?

Thanks for the replies.

LYNX

[Halo]

Lynx,

1.  Yes, I use XP (Home).

2.   I've used several Logitech sticks for a long time.  I just load the disk and follow the setup instructions.  Make sure it works fine in Windows before going to AH.  The current stick added more buttons and I haven't even assigned functions to all of them yet.

3.  Of course I've calibrated my Logitech joystick in Aces High.  As I said, no problems.  Works great, very smooth and positive.  

Only problem I've had with a Logitech is an earlier version finally failing to hold a left side view.  By that time, I wanted a later version anyway.

 Another clarification:  I don't fly nearly as often as I used to, so I don't put as much wear on the stick as previously.  Still, it seems plenty substantial and nicely balanced.

I assume you've followed joystick setup in general and tailored all the stick settings to your particular preferences, e.g., button and slider designations and overall sensitivities.  

From your first post, my best guess is your damping and deadband might be set too high (both of mine are low, maybe 10% on each and of course zero on throttle).  

On roll, axis and yaw, I used to mimic ascending sensitivities, making a rough ascending slant line from about 10% on the right column to 90% on the left column.

But lately I just max all the roll, axis, and yaw settings at 100% and the stick seems more responsive than ever.  

But I have no idea about that right turn axis problem.  Sorry.  Hopefully one of the more knowledgeable joystick experts can unravel that for you.