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Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2004, 03:07:19 PM »
This isn't a war anymore though, its an occupation. I can see things happening on the battlefield, in a fire fight, in a city with an ambush, on a convoy getting ambushed during an occupation and **** going down less than perfect or the way its preferred...

but this prison deal, it was far removed from conflict. Its not an atrocity to me, its just a major cluster**** and has little to do with any war. There was no "heat of the moment", where things went awry.
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2004, 03:14:51 PM »
Hell I agree with what you just posted Wulfie!

It is a cluster ****, and the people responisble should pay dearly.

Has anyone here really said we should just ignore it?

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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2004, 03:15:35 PM »
And what do you thing about max punishment for guys from prison ?

Max punishment is 1 year.

somehow its :rofl

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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2004, 03:18:53 PM »
No, just going by posts - this isn't the only instance, just the quickest to use - where things like these are stated :

"There's more outcry here than the last 12 years when Sadam Husain was in charge

There's more outcry here than the last 40 some years of N. Korea starving its own people.

There's more outcry here than the human rights abuses in china that take place daily"

I'm trying to say that that **** is expected from those **** hole leaders.

The prison deal was a mind blower to the world because THAT was never expected to come from us.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2004, 03:31:59 PM »
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6 very close coworkers for my parent company died in the Trade Centers :(

AFIC, everyone of those terrorists deserves a horrible death... sadly, they probably won't becasue of people like you.


Because of folk like me, eh? Bodhi you have no idea..

Six very close co-workers lost? Very sad indeed. People contend with loss everyday.

Bodhi, your so blind by your hate its frightening.. So blind indeed you cannot realize what you wish for already has happened. Everyone of those people that carried out the death of your 6 close co-workers ARE dead.. What you want now is not justice, but revenge. That is not christian like nor is it the answer to this world's problems..  But do not take my word for it..  Consider the word from your god himself that violence produces more violence.. Until the american christian war machine wakes up and realizes this very acute point, that said group is no better than the group it wishes to destroy..  

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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2004, 03:37:40 PM »
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Because of folk like me, eh? Bodhi you have no idea..

Six very close co-workers lost? Very sad indeed. People contend with loss everyday.

Bodhi, your so blind by your hate its frightening.. So blind indeed you cannot realize what you wish for already has happened. Everyone of those people that carried out the death of your 6 close co-workers ARE dead.. What you want now is not justice, but revenge. That is not christian like nor is it the answer to this world's problems..  But do not take my word for it..  Consider the word from your god himself that violence produces more violence.. Until the american christian war machine wakes up and realizes this very acute point, that said group is no better than the group it wishes to destroy..  

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Um, no.  Now we kill the people that planned it.  Then we kill the people that funded it.  Then we kill the people that supported it.....

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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2004, 03:41:54 PM »
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Um, no.  Now we kill the people that planned it.  Then we kill the people that funded it.  Then we kill the people that supported it.....


Good plan..  Im sure once thats done the world will be free of terrorist..   There is no cycle of violence here..

Do these peoples considered responsible recieve a trial? Or are we just to kill them on someone's word?

Which of the 3 actions listed does Iraqi fall into?? Which action does the many thousands of civilians killed in Iraqi fall into..  How many more terrorist are we creating in Iraqi? None? These slain people's families will just forgive and forget, right??

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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2004, 03:44:31 PM »
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Good plan..  Im sure once thats done the world will be free of terrorist..   There is no cycle of violence here..

Which of the 3 actions listed does Iraqi fall into?? Which action does the many thousands of civilians killed in Iraqi fall into..  How many more terrorist are we creating in Iraqi? None? These slain people's families will just forgive and forget, right??

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Depends on who you are.

Iraq definitely funded terrorism.

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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2004, 03:47:12 PM »
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Depends on who you are.

Iraq definitely funded terrorism.


So has America......  in south america..  first to mind was for the Dole fruit company...  

nm ...  im out till later..

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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2004, 03:54:04 PM »
LOL Yeah AI   Right up there with the UN:rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2004, 04:06:33 PM »
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now you did it.  ravs will be very displeased when he returns.

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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2004, 04:46:41 PM »
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Because of folk like me, eh? Bodhi you have no idea..

Six very close co-workers lost? Very sad indeed. People contend with loss everyday.

Bodhi, your so blind by your hate its frightening.. So blind indeed you cannot realize what you wish for already has happened. Everyone of those people that carried out the death of your 6 close co-workers ARE dead.. What you want now is not justice, but revenge. That is not christian like nor is it the answer to this world's problems..  But do not take my word for it..  Consider the word from your god himself that violence produces more violence.. Until the american christian war machine wakes up and realizes this very acute point, that said group is no better than the group it wishes to destroy..  

dude

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Everyone of those people that carried out the attack are dead... that is very obvious, even for you.  Yet, you fail to realise is that the army of terrorists called Al Quaeda is still alive and operating.  When they are eliminated, that is far from the end, as there are many more terrorists out there who need to be brought down as well.  This is not revenge, it is a fact of life that needs to be carried out.  Unfortunately liberal pansies like yourself, are content to allow these groups to fester and grow, until they attack again, then you will scream bloody murder at our intel and military for not preventing it in the first place.  I do hate terrorists, and, I guess according to God, I am wrong for not forgiving, that is something that I am willing to stand up for when the time comes.  You on the other hand seem content to bash the president, blame the conduct of a few on an entire army, and generally remain a malcontent imbecile who bases his beliefs on just how much it can get him and shreck the rest of the world.  Well Mr. Wizard, how would you fix the problem?  Surrender to terrorism?  Beg them not to attack us again and you'll leave them alone.... please astonish me with a well thought out plan, it would be a surprise after all the BS you posted.

As for the quote that people deal with loss, stick it in your arse you conceited bastard, you have no clue.  :mad:
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2004, 04:54:44 PM »
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now you did it.  ravs will be very displeased when he returns.
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2004, 06:36:13 PM »
some of these people in these threads are complete morons

here's the facts:

-Yes some bad things happend and they will be delt w/  1 year in prison so far was in exchange for testimony for the rest

-yes Iraq funded terrism...it is well documented that sadam paid alot of money to suicide bombers family

-yes its a fact that human rights abuses happen all over the world and it is a shock when US troops commit it.  It is a VERY SMALL percentage of troops commiting these

-Yes its a fact that the Detainees in Gitmo are NOT POWS because they did not fight for any particular country therefore afforded no rights under the geneva convention


spin it all you want those ARE FACTS....prove me wrong if you can

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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2004, 07:08:35 PM »
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Um, no.  Now we kill the people that planned it.  Then we kill the people that funded it.  Then we kill the people that supported it.....


No way in Hell is Bush gonna go after his wealthy Saudi friends...

Period.

We'll invade Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood before we go after Saudi Arabia...