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Offline XtrmeJ

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Request to remove CVs from the game
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2004, 02:31:59 AM »
Who ya reffering to Tumor.. Stang? Because he makes a valid point:D. That makes him trying to "pwn" ehh?Too funny.

Offline 68DevilM

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« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2004, 02:46:59 AM »
no

i like the different avenues there are in the game and limiting or takeing away anything this game has would certainly make it a little boring

Offline MadSquirrel

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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2004, 04:56:46 AM »
I've tried an experimental attack on the CV with some of my squaddies in AH2 - lifted up with heavy fighters, didn't grab much alt - but we jumped it an once and neutralized most of the ackfire on the escort ships. And then, finally, strafed the CV dead and vulched planes taking off from it. Upped with about 5 fellow planes, lost two to ackfire. Rest of the planes sustained heavy damages but survived.

When 5 planes can destroy a carrier and it's escorts with the lose of two of its aircraft then things are not right.  

The carriers in AH and AHII are being used exactly as they should.  To bring an enemy airfield within striking distance.  The accuracy and amount of fire should stay the same as in AH1, but with the ability to destroy gun emplacements, fuel supplies and ordnance.  How many enemy aircraft did it take to destroy a carrier?  1 with a well-placed bomb on an American carriers wooden deck.  But getting that one bomb there was the problem.
I was attacking from a carrier the other night and two P-38s took down the carrier.  With that weak a defense, there virtually is no carrier fleet.


Gotta say, I think the LTAR's hit the nail on the head, let's just get rid of all facets of aeriel warfare and ground pound...Yeah!, that's the ticket!

I don't recall any LTARs saying anything of the sort.  I have heard some members remind flyboys that this game isn't strictly for airplanes.  This is usually after someone gets dusted out of the sky by a 37mm round in the kisser and complains about GVs.  I for one greatly enjoy carrier battles.  I would like to see more as a matter of fact.  But remember this, aircraft are just a tool to make it safer for ground forces to capture territory.  Even the C-47 is only a delivery tool for ground forces.  The more planes in the air the better.  Gives me more to shoot at.  But please don't belittle ground units or naval units just because they aren't your cup of tea.

Aces Highs' strength lies in its diversity and the diversity of its players.

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P.S.  And MoRphEuS, Can I dance or can't I.  I didn't even see you take my picture at that party.  :rofl
« Last Edit: May 29, 2004, 05:02:41 AM by MadSquirrel »

Offline Pooh21

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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2004, 05:13:40 AM »
I think we should buff up the 5in by removing the explosive, time fused,and RF shells, And put rabid scorpion fused shells in.
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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2004, 08:56:24 AM »
diversity is one thing but all late war all the time and fighters being forced to play with toolshed killers and silly GV drivers is quite another.

lazs

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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2004, 09:06:17 AM »
LOL so many Shades on the BB now its not even funny:lol :rofl :aok
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Offline MadSquirrel

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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2004, 11:15:55 AM »
Lazs2, you must have been one that took a 37mm in the kisser.

Name calling aside, GVs and Carriers are a part of the game.  HT has done an outstanding job in creating a game that appeals to a lot of people.  

forced to play with toolshed killers and silly GV drivers

No one is "forcing" you to play.  But hey, if Arcade flying a couple of airplanes is your thing, you should try Playstation or Nintendo.  But I like aviation, naval and ground based battles this game has to offer.

My opinion without channel 1 BS involved.  Enough said.

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« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2004, 11:09:13 PM »
yeah while we're at it lets get rid of all the planes and tanks too.

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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2004, 01:26:47 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
as do I.

lazs


Well, from what I saw today things are already status quo. I logged into the beta and promptly found a CV in the midst of a red horde.

I took up an FM-2 and after nearly emptying my guns, landed 6 kills, including 3 Tempests and a Spit14. LOLOLOLOL

Just as I caught a wire I spot low buffs inbound. So, I gabbed a turret and shot down 7 bombers and fighters including 3 AR 234s.

Unfortunately for us, HTC has the precision bombsight in place (from the pre-calibration days) and as those of us who were here then remember, that bombsight rarely misses. Eventually the already burning CV went down from one suicide run after another.

Naturally, a great furball ended with the CV sinking. Most enemy were in perk planes, and few displayed even basic ability.

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Offline WilldCrd

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Re: Request to remove CVs from the game
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2004, 05:49:25 AM »
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CVs have become the wet, lather, rinse, repeat of the game.

Remove them at once as the useless aspects they are!

Let's have a vote!:D


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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2004, 01:39:45 PM »
ltard squirrel.. how is the combat flight sim part of AH like ninetendo?  I have never used a nintendo but arent the fm's really simple and only one or two guys can play...  Would seem that the extremely simplistic "blowing up toolsheds" and driving around in simplified and gamey GV's in order to "win" (LOL) the war would be more of a nintendo type of thing... most of the stuff yu do could be done on a gameboy with no humans involved.

lazs

Offline MadSquirrel

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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2004, 02:38:54 AM »
Lazs,
Let me make this simple.  If you don't like the mix of the game, no one is forcing you to play.  "Combat flight sim", no, Combat sim, yes.

"High fidelity air combat is the heart of
Aces High, but it doesn't end there.  In addition to
flying a multitude of aircraft types, players can
also man vehicles, boats, amphibs, gun batteries,
and ships.  It's the most diverse virtual arsenal
available to players in this genre and it's constantly
growing through frequent updates.  In the air, on
land, and at sea, the battle rages 24 hours a day
with participants from around the world."


Carriers are part of this game and should be left in.  GVs are part of this game and should be left in.  Aircraft are a part of this game and should be left in.

As far as the Nintendo/Playstation stuff is concerned, I gathered from your post that you didn't think these other facets of AH/AHII should be in this game, and that it should be just a couple of planes dueling it out.  Well then this game will disappoint you.  It is much more.  And my hat is off to Hitech for creating it.

Now, the way I see it is this, you can compliment HT for the fine job they are doing, or complain some more.  Either way, .

As for the "ltard" comment, thank you.  It means that I, or one of my Squad Mates, must have blasted you out of the air enough to really make an impression.  OH, is that why you don't like GVs?   :rofl   I get it.

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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2004, 09:12:29 AM »
I like the carriers ltard.

I don't like the gamey suicide fluffers and kamikazi's that hit it.

And no... I don't want a "couple" of planes dueling it out I want masses of planes dueling it out all virtualy flown by real people.

I believe, like most folk, that the GV's and fluffs are the gamiest feature of the sim and are the refuge of those who can't seem to work a j stick.   That is fine... everyone needs to feel "special"..  I just don't want em to get in my way..

oh, and I have never heard of you or any of your squadmates..  but... yes the ltard is a compliment.   I am big on compliments to those who deserve em.

lazs
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Offline Morpheus

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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2004, 10:23:32 AM »
I take back my original statements as I have come to a different feeling with the past week.

I agree that CVs should be gone. Even more so in AH2. I think that we should only be able to fly how others feel. Who are the "others" you ask? I think you know.

I also think that all voice comm should be done away with so as to not "bother" those who are trying to get their "job" done.

You must also have to ask permision to speak on country channel 2. There is far too much chatter going on to be able to sort through it all and tell what is "important" and what is BS.

I've seen a trend developing throughout the past week or so. I am not one who likes to take "baby steps". I think we should take care of this stuff. Nip these problems in the bud. Its time for a newer, more refined Aces High. I beleive these steps will help us more rapidly reach the goals of these "others".

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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2004, 10:37:30 AM »
Personally, I would like to see the game modified to allow task forces to contain two or even three or more carriers.  That would make the fights around them even more realistic, and prevent suiciders from ending some great aerial scraps prematurely.

Your thoughts?

Regards, Shuckins/Leggern