Author Topic: Home Defense (Read 1696 times)

Tarmac · « **Reply #30 on:** May 28, 2004, 01:59:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Leslie
To me, the double barrel 12 gauge is good for home defense. You have a choice of different loads, which can be mixed or matched, and you decide which barrel to use first, or both at the same time if need be. I've heard of old geezers who use rock salt loads. I guess that's so they have no hesitation to shoot intruders, because they know it won't kill them. Only sting their hide a bit. Double barrel works best outdoors.

Pump stotguns make an intimidating sound when they rack. Most sane people will run at that sound. One time I was up late at night, and heard what sounded like the neighbors racking up pumps, and I hit the deck on my floor.

Turns out they were using a jack on their car to fix a flat tire.

It's usually so quiet around here, that that was a very unusual sound for 4 A.M..

What's the deal with the neighbors Hawklore? Are they neighborhood thieves and neer-do-wells? Is it a situation the police can take care of?

Les

Les

I hear running around in your underwear with a pistol stuck on yhoru finger does wonders for scaring off an intruder.

Leslie · « **Reply #31 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:22:12 AM »

It works for awhile Tarmac. Interesting you remembered that, but it was a learning experience. In the end, when I could no longer stand the pain of that P-39 Ruger bolt closed on my right index finger, I simply yanked my finger out and it was instant relief.

Les

Tarmac · « **Reply #32 on:** May 28, 2004, 02:26:08 AM »

Leslie · « **Reply #33 on:** May 28, 2004, 04:31:22 AM »

I'm just thinking about the time my Dad protected my friend and me from some bad boys in High School. We sold a bag of pot to these guys, and didn't test it out first. It was rip-off pot and the buyers came here first, wanting their money back. Meanwhile my friend and I cowered in the back of the house.

We had to tell my Dad what was going on. It was an emergency. He knew what to do, he had the double barrel in his left hand at the front door, and only opened it so the bad guys couldn't see it.

He talked to them and gave them the money, and they left without any problem. I was about 16 when this happened.

Les

Sox62 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 28, 2004, 04:44:30 AM »

Two dogs(Yellow Lab and a Black Lab/Doberman mix),and a loaded Beretta.

There are better houses to rob than mine.

beet1e · « **Reply #35 on:** May 28, 2004, 06:12:48 AM »

I'd hate to live in a society where I felt compelled to arm myself with awesome weaponry just to feel safe.

Land of the free, home of the scared.

Leslie · « **Reply #36 on:** May 28, 2004, 06:18:15 AM »

What would you have done Beet1e, call the police? You probably don't know about teenagers and what they can do.

In any case, that was the only time a gun was needed, that I can remember in my lifetime.

Les

ravells · « **Reply #37 on:** May 28, 2004, 06:20:23 AM »

Hi Les,

Did your dad beat the hell out of you afterwards?

Ravs

Nilsen · « **Reply #38 on:** May 28, 2004, 06:30:02 AM »

A baseball bat, maglight or a wrench works just fine here since the bruglars only use knifes (if anything) and they havent got a clue how to use one anyway.

Leslie · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2004, 06:31:48 AM »

No. My Dad loved me more than anything else on Earth. He was understanding. My Dad was very traveled. He wasn't a redneck, but educated in the ways of the sea. He was on a cargo ship for a while. And sailed to Argentina and back. This was in the 30s. He was a wiper at first, and then was second mate of a 300 ton beef freighter out of New Orleans to SA and back. He said it was the lonliest life he ever knew. He met other sailors from different countries and was a man, by all definitions of the word.

Why should he get onto me about something like that? With the experiences he had, he knew how to deal with almost any situation.

Les

ravells · « **Reply #40 on:** May 28, 2004, 06:34:00 AM »

Umm...well you were selling drugs.

Many parents would find that a little disturbing.

Ravs

Leslie · « **Reply #41 on:** May 28, 2004, 06:42:46 AM »

My parents were disappointed with me. I was ashamed of myself.

Les

beet1e · « **Reply #42 on:** May 28, 2004, 07:12:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Leslie
What would you have done Beet1e, call the police? You probably don't know about teenagers and what they can do

Didn't think you'd understand. Some points to note:
1) There are plenty of teenagers in my road, and none has any guns.
2) Because of 1, I feel no need to quiver under my bunk with a shotgun.
3) House burglars are opportunists. They don't bother with houses that are locked up as mine is. They are looking for jewellery and other valuables which they can fence quickly for cash. I don't have anything worth nicking.

But please - entertain yourself by applying the US thesis to the UK model.

:rolleyes:

capt. apathy · « **Reply #43 on:** May 28, 2004, 08:37:59 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Didn't think you'd understand. Some points to note:
1) There are plenty of teenagers in my road, and none has any guns.
2) Because of 1, I feel no need to quiver under my bunk with a shotgun.
3) House burglars are opportunists. They don't bother with houses that are locked up as mine is. They are looking for jewelery and other valuables which they can fence quickly for cash. I don't have anything worth nicking.

But please - entertain yourself by applying the US thesis to the UK model. :rolleyes:

1) that you know of.

2) first of all nobodies hiding, just prepared. second what you FEEL doesn't matter, what matters is reality. the reality is even where you live people lose their life and property to criminals. some would expect others to handle it for them, others of us prefer to be more self-sufficient.

3) illegal entries come in all shapes and sizes.
a. home invasion robbers,
b. opportunistic that look for easy entry or things left in the yard, c. well organized burglars who will rob your house, then come back in 4 weeks and get all the brand new stuff that you just bought with insurance money,
d. cat-burglars who come in while you are asleep and take small valuables,
e. break-in rapists,
f. the hobo who breaks in while you are at work and just eats your food and uses the shower.
g. some nut job who's taken a unhealthy notice of your wife or kids.

and the list can be much longer, ask any of the cops on this BBS, they could probably come up with a few more easily

Angus · « **Reply #44 on:** May 28, 2004, 08:46:23 AM »

Hmmm, capt, this woke me up:
"seriously warning shots are stupid, any round you fire will stop somewhere (in your kid, your neighbors house, whatever), the best place for the shot that leaves your gun, to go is into the criminal who has invaded your house."
Hmmm. Aim at the floor?
The benefit of the shotgun in the shootout field are many, seriously.
1. They don't penetrate as much as a heavy bullet.
2. The pellets don't go far,- 100 yds.
3. They don't bounce so much.