Salmon are endangered?

[gofaster]

Then why is it offered in restaurants for around $12?  Guess I'll have the chicken next time.

U.S.: Endangered List to Remain Intact

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By JEFF BARNARD, Associated Press Writer

GRANTS PASS, Ore. - The Bush administration sees a larger role for hatcheries in replenishing Pacific salmon, but counting hatchery fish along with wild ones will not immediately take any runs off the endangered species list.

   

A review, begun after a 2001 federal court ruling gave hatchery fish the same protection as wild fish, found that all 26 runs protected by the Endangered Species Act should stay on the list. That includes the Oregon coastal coho, whose threatened species status was rescinded by the ruling.


NOAA Fisheries, the federal agency in charge of restoring salmon, said another run — lower Columbia River coho — should be added to the list. The listing proposals will be reviewed over the next year before NOAA makes a final determination.


The review and details of a new federal policy on salmon hatcheries, also a result of the 2001 ruling, were to be formally announced Friday in Seattle.


Though 27 of the 51 distinct populations of salmon and steelhead on the West Coast still merit protection, the vast majority are improving as a result of improved ocean conditions and habitat restoration, said Bob Lohn, NOAA Fisheries northwest regional director.


"The overall goal is the restoration of naturally spawning salmon runs," said commerce Undersecretary Adm. Conrad C. Lautenbacher, Jr. "We are turning the corner on this. If you look at the indications, people should not lose hope on it."


Though hatchery fish make up about 80 percent of Pacific salmon populations, fisheries biologists have long warned that hatcheries are one of the leading factors in the overall decline over the past century, and many are not convinced by the new policy.


Poor practices in the past have depleted the gene pool, and crowded conditions lead to the rapid spread of disease. The young hatchery fish released into rivers compete with wild fish for food, but are less successful at surviving predators and other hazards to return as adults.

[Airhead]

The salmon you get in a restaurant is pen raised Atlantic salmon. They have to dye the meat pink to make it look like salmon.

Definately, order the chicken.

[Nilsen]

dont fool him airhead...its not nice

[capt. apathy]

some runs of wild salmon are endangered.  hatchery fish bump the populations back up.

in some areas you can only keep the hatchery fish (they have a clipped fin), and the wilds need to be released.

[lazs2]

I blame the indians.

lazs

[Airhead]

Originally posted by lazs2
I blame the indians.

lazs

Don't laugh Lazs, there's some validity in that. Reservations aren't subject to State Fish and Game laws, and at the Ranchiera up here the fishing pole of choice is a pitchfork.

Thank God for Indian Gaming, tho, cause now the Indians can afford to buy Halibut and don't have to eat sore-arsed salmon beat up from a couple weeks in the river.

[Lizking]

Atlantic Salmon are domesticated.  They do not do well in nature, as far as extending their range or even being reintroduced.  Pacific salmon, on the other hand, do not farm well, but adapt to new range extremely well.

So, what is happening is that Pacific Salmon are being introduced around the world into the wild, and Atlantic Salmon are being farmed and ranched.

[Airhead]

I've noticed that about people too.

West Coasters tend to be larger, better looking and more robust while East Coasters don't do very well in nature and have to be raised in pens.

Thank God I'm a Californian..born and bred.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Airhead
Thank God I'm a Californian..born and bred.

That last one can be debated, but i cant argue with the rest

[lazs2]

airhead... everything I say has validity (to me at least).

I agree that people raised in pens are unhealthy.   I just wish they didn't vote.

I don't think laws passed by city folk should affect rural people.

lazs

[Dune]

The other problem for the salmon is that the Buerue of Reclamation and the Corp of Engineers built a dam on ever 5 miles straight streetch of river in the Northwest during the 30's and 40's.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by Dune
The other problem for the salmon is that the Buerue of Reclamation and the Corp of Engineers built a dam on ever 5 miles straight streetch of river in the Northwest during the 30's and 40's.

Good. I'd much rather have a lake for boating than salmon anyway.

We can eat steak.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Lizking
Atlantic Salmon are domesticated.  They do not do well in nature, as far as extending their range or even being reintroduced.  Pacific salmon, on the other hand, do not farm well, but adapt to new range extremely well.

So, what is happening is that Pacific Salmon are being introduced around the world into the wild, and Atlantic Salmon are being farmed and ranched.

Beat me to it...

[Mathman]

Salmon is indeed endangered.  He was placed on the 15-day disabled list a few weeks ago.  From what I understand, his recovery isn't going as well as it could.