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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2004, 10:44:00 PM »
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Wow shot down by Stukas while in a Hurri. That is like Andre the Giant in his prime wrestling midgets and getting his bellybutton kicked.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2004, 09:42:55 AM »
I was commenting on the fact that the Stukas that were send over to England got decimated by the RAF.

For a Hawker Hurricane pilot to get shot down by them was a victory for the underdog.

If you want to salute some brave pilots salute the Stuka pilots who were told to fly far far from base, over water, and bomb well defended targets without proper air cover (not that that would have helped much).

Better yet salute the poor gunner in the back with a pea shooter looking at the business end of two very well armed foes.
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2004, 12:34:39 PM »
Habu,

I'm not very supportive at all of nazis or their goal for the world as well as starting the conflict in Europe. If you are, then that is your problem, not mine. I'm spending time this memorial weekend remembering those, including in my family, that had to pay a price for the nazi actions.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2004, 11:01:27 AM »
Well  whatever they do in the flick will be hard pressed to top the 1969 film "BOB", with Christopher Plummer and Michael York and a host of others.  The best thing of the flick was that it used Spanish AF HE-111 and 109's but versions equipped with merlin engines and real spits and hurris!  Great air combat footage and it is available on VHS but not sure about DVD.

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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2004, 11:08:21 AM »
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Well  whatever they do in the flick will be hard pressed to top the 1969 film "BOB", with Christopher Plummer and Michael York and a host of others.  The best thing of the flick was that it used Spanish AF HE-111 and 109's but versions equipped with merlin engines and real spits and hurris!  Great air combat footage and it is available on VHS but not sure about DVD.

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It is out on DVD, on TV right now actually. TCM.
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2004, 01:29:53 PM »
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Habu,

I'm not very supportive at all of Nazis or their goal for the world as well as starting the conflict in Europe. If you are, then that is your problem, not mine. I'm spending time this memorial weekend remembering those, including in my family, that had to pay a price for the Nazi actions.


The conditions that lead to WW2 started from the treaties that ended WW1. If you try to extract vengence and inflict suffering on a nation that lost a war all you are doing is fostering the condtions to start the next one.

The Nazi leadership were evil. The men in the 20's serving in the Luftwaffe and Army were not. They did not run the death camps nor did they formulate the policy. There were just serving their country.

I had a relative who died in a bomber in the war. He was a tail gunner in a Halifax. I have many friends who lost loved ones in the war.

If you cannot separate your hate for the Nazis from compassion for the poor young men who died in droves on both sides of the war because they were just cannon fodder for the politicians then that is your problem not mine.

Extending your ignorant comments to the present, I am sure right now you probably hate all the Russian and eastern European people who served in the armies of those countries during the cold war. Russia was behind many atrocities under Lenin and Stalin and right up into the early eighties Do you hate all the Russians around this game and the US today?

Here is a free tip. Don't try to come off all sanctimonious due to your ignorance. If you have nothing constructive to say keep your thoughts to yourself.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2004, 01:37:59 PM »
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The conditions that lead to WW2 started from the treaties that ended WW1. If you try to extract vengence and inflict suffering on a nation that lost a war all you are doing is fostering the condtions to start the next one.

The Nazi leadership were evil. The men in the 20's serving in the Luftwaffe and Army were not. They did not run the death camps nor did they formulate the policy. There were just serving their country.

I had a relative who died in a bomber in the war. He was a tail gunner in a Halifax. I have many friends who lost loved ones in the war.

If you cannot separate your hate for the Nazis from compassion for the poor young men who died in droves on both sides of the war because they were just cannon fodder for the politicians then that is your problem not mine.

Extending your ignorant comments to the present, I am sure right now you probably hate all the Russian and eastern European people who served in the armies of those countries during the cold war. Russia was behind many atrocities under Lenin and Stalin and right up into the early eighties Do you hate all the Russians around this game and the US today?

Here is a free tip. Don't try to come off all sanctimonious due to your ignorance. If you have nothing constructive to say keep your thoughts to yourself.


Can we at least piss in their wheaties, just a little?:)  why do u guys take all this so seriously??
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2004, 02:19:19 PM »
About this:
"SPR showed the brits hitting the beach. Just because they were the last to leave the beach is not the film's fault."

The Brits landed on 3 beaches, the Americans on 2.
Basically Omaha was a mess-up.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2004, 04:09:46 PM »
BTW habu, it was the french and the Brits who stood firm on the treaty at the end of WW2, Wilson tried to mitigate it but was voted down. So keep your ignorance to yourself.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2004, 05:11:41 PM »
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Well  whatever they do in the flick will be hard pressed to top the 1969 film "BOB", with Christopher Plummer and Michael York and a host of others.  The best thing of the flick was that it used Spanish AF HE-111 and 109's but versions equipped with merlin engines and real spits and hurris!  Great air combat footage and it is available on VHS but not sure about DVD.

All the Best...
Jay
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Hey Doc, where'd you get that avatar? Looks very familiar!

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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2004, 05:24:46 PM »
I thought Omaha was a purely US operation - and it was that beach that Saving Private Ryan was recreating.

I'm curious...were there Brits on Omaha beach too?

Ravs
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2004, 06:51:49 PM »
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BTW habu, it was the french and the Brits who stood firm on the treaty at the end of WW2, Wilson tried to mitigate it but was voted down. So keep your ignorance to yourself.


I know how and why the treaty of Versailles was drafted. The phrase used at the time was squeeze them till their pips squeak. Which lead to the creation of the word pipsqueak, which is a small weak man. Kind of like the midgets I made light of in my original post.

There is no excuse for what the Nazi's did but their support and rise to power was largely due to the harsh conditions imposed on Germany by France and England.

I don't know where you deduced from my previous comments that my post was anti Wilson or US. You seem to be jumping to conclusions, that or arguing with a voice in your head instead of with anything I have been posting.
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2004, 07:03:35 PM »
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I thought Omaha was a purely US operation - and it was that beach that Saving Private Ryan was recreating.

I'm curious...were there Brits on Omaha beach too?

Ravs


I think the commonwealth forces landed at sword, Juno and gold.  but I could be mistaken.
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2004, 10:37:32 PM »
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The Brits landed on 3 beaches, the Americans on 2.
Basically Omaha was a mess-up.


That's incorrect.  The British landed on two beaches (Sword and Gold), Americans landed on two beaches (Omaha and Utah) and Canadians landed on one beach (Juno).


You can find the order of battle here.

http://www.fact-index.com/b/ba/battle_of_normandy.html
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2004, 12:54:55 AM »
You might be interested to know that Hollywood is making a flick for Feb of '05 called Ghost Soldiers. It's about an Army Ranger detachment sent in to rescue 500 POW's from a Japanese POW camp. It could be as hokey as those dumb Missing in Action flicks, or it might be a great film. That idiot Benjamin Bratt has a big role, though, so I don't expect a big hit. IMDB has more info on it.


EDIT: Just checked IMDB's entry for The Few. Cruise will by driving a Hurricane, not a Zitfire. And if you think the debate gets warm here about it, it's blazing on the IMDB boards!



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