Author Topic: Could World War II Have Been Won... (Read 2195 times)

eskimo2 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 31, 2004, 11:46:39 AM »

8 posts since I hit the "Quote" button.
Great question/topic.

eskimo

Chairboy · « **Reply #16 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:04:57 PM »

Here shuckins, let me give you the answer you obviously expect:

Lordy lordy no, we're all a bunch of spineless cowards! I say, I say, please suh, stop with all the war! We all want to surrender because we're nothing compared to the self proclaimed 'greatest generation'!

capt. apathy · « **Reply #17 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:19:30 PM »

you forgot one Rip-

Dec, 7 1941,
Japan attacks Pearl Harbor, Bush declares war on Korea, stating "we can't let these attacks go un-answered"

Shuckins · « **Reply #18 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:20:52 PM »

Chairboy,

Dam right you're not! Neither am I.

Want to prove you're their equal...get up before daylight, feed the livestock, eat breakfast, plow a forty-acre field behind a mule, come home after dark, clean up eat supper, read your Bible, then go to bed. Kill all your own meat, raise your own vegetables, trap for furs when the crops fail, lose half your children to disease, lay up four cords of firewood with cross-cut saw and double-bitted axe, can vegetables and meats using a wood-burning stove in an un-airconditioned house during the dog-days of summer. Make, darn, knit, and mend your own clothes. Worry about having the five cents it takes to buy a pair of boot laces. Lace your boots with baling string if you don't have the five cents. Delight your children with Christmas gifts consisting of stocking stuffed with apples, oranges, a piece of peppermint, cheap cloth doll, and a wooden top.

In other words, work like a dog 6 days a week.

Most of us couldn't do it. So, YEAH, they were made of sterner stuff than you and I.

Shuckins/Leggern

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #19 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:31:17 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
Too late Ripsnort..Your gov should have reacted in 1939.

What? And go against the wishes of the US population who was decidely against joining this silly european war...

They reacted in 1939. Yep! By doing largely nothing and staying out of the unpopular war, just like the US people wanted. And just like France, Germany, Russia did today when we asked them for support in Iraq...

I thought yiou guys were against governments leading people into wars against their wishes...

Or does that only hold true when the USA needs help from her allues and not the other way around?

eskimo2 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:35:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins
Chairboy,

Dam right you're not! Neither am I.

Want to prove you're their equal...get up before daylight, feed the livestock, eat breakfast, plow a forty-acre field behind a mule, come home after dark, clean up eat supper, read your Bible, then go to bed. Kill all your own meat, raise your own vegetables, trap for furs when the crops fail, lose half your children to disease, lay up four cords of firewood with cross-cut saw and double-bitted axe, can vegetables and meats using a wood-burning stove in an un-airconditioned house during the dog-days of summer. Make, darn, knit, and mend your own clothes. Worry about having the five cents it takes to buy a pair of boot laces. Lace your boots with baling string if you don't have the five cents. Delight your children with Christmas gifts consisting of stocking stuffed with apples, oranges, a piece of peppermint, cheap cloth doll, and a wooden top.

In other words, work like a dog 6 days a week.

Most of us couldn't do it. So, YEAH, they were made of sterner stuff than you and I.

Shuckins/Leggern

I live with two octagenerians. Their retired and they still work harder than I do.

eskimo

Chairboy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2004, 12:56:14 PM »

Ah, didn't realize that circa 1940 everyone in the United States lived at Little House on the Prairie.

I think you're off by about 50 years, but that's ok. By your logic, the finest examples of humanity were cavemen and it's been downhill ever since as technology/progress has made little things easier one by one.

This is pretty typical extension of the christian idea that all humans are born without a chance to be sin free. You're damned if you do, and damned if you... do.

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:11:17 PM »

things are easier now than even 30 years ago but... people are much softer. they are soft physicaly and mentaly.

we are becoming some kind of Orwell Ayn Rand mix of a novel.

lazs

Shuckins · « **Reply #23 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:15:35 PM »

What I'm saying, armChairBoy, is that technological advances have made life easier without ennobling the spirit.

Faced with the challenges of the 1930s and 40s, that generation demonstrated the capacity for sustained sacrifice. I do not believe that the current generation could do the same, although I hope that it would.

By the way, by what twisted leap of logic do you interpret this as a religious topic?

Shuckins/Leggern

NUKE · « **Reply #24 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:31:21 PM »

We could and would pull it off again today, no question in my mind.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #25 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:43:17 PM »

people are as tough or determined as their situation demands.

it's pointless to compare one generation to another. would we have a hard time dealing with life 50-60 years ago yes (and so did they).

but I bet if you took someone from that time and dropped him into todays life he would fair no better in my time than I would in his.

btw- if people are really getting weaker and stupider, why do almost every worlds record in any subject continue to get broken? every few years you get somebody who runs faster, jumps higher, lifts more weight, or invents something that nobody would have dreamed of 50 years ago.

not to take anything away from past generations, they did what they had to do and concentrated on things that where important in their lives. just like we do, and every generation in the past or the future would or will do.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:44:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ah, didn't realize that circa 1940 everyone in the United States lived at Little House on the Prairie.

I think you're off by about 50 years, but that's ok. By your logic, the finest examples of humanity were cavemen and it's been downhill ever since as technology/progress has made little things easier one by one.

This is pretty typical extension of the christian idea that all humans are born without a chance to be sin free. You're damned if you do, and damned if you... do.

"1940 The downward spiral in the number of farms in the U.S. begins. Farmers would decrease from 30 percent of the population to less than 3 percent by 1981. "

Source

eskimo

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:46:06 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
All jap atrocities would have been forgotten when pics of naked jap prisoners were released..

amnesty international would have ignored the "jewish problem" and jap atrocities and concentrated on the mean ol U.S. troops.

lazs

And lazs would fit right in as a soldier in the Nazi death camps.

storch · « **Reply #28 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:46:31 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
things are easier now than even 30 years ago but... people are much softer. they are soft physicaly and mentaly.

we are becoming some kind of Orwell Ayn Rand mix of a novel.

lazs

dang if you ain't right. LOL at the Orwell/Rand analogy.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 31, 2004, 01:47:38 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
"1940 The downward spiral in the number of farms in the U.S. begins. Farmers would decrease from 30 percent of the population to less than 3 percent by 1981. "

Source

eskimo

Even though farmers only made up 30% of the US population, many additional families partially subsided with gardens, hunting and fishing.

eskimo

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