Author Topic: Takes balls... even after the fact (Read 1653 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #45 on:** June 04, 2004, 07:58:21 PM »

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Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
Do you even comprehend why they are straping bombs onto themselves?

Do you? Seriously, whats your explaination?

lada · « **Reply #46 on:** June 05, 2004, 05:28:48 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Do you? Seriously, whats your explaination?

"When you do not know answer, answer question "
... Some old czech commie

lazs2 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 05, 2004, 09:30:37 AM »

would love to hear stabbies explanation on how a person who straps explosives on with the sole purpose of killing as many women and children as possible or sprays down a school yard with an AK is any better than one who hears voices in his head telling him to do it.

would love to hear how that compares to what the jewish example given here.

sorry, but we don't get all the news here because of the jews so unless you can come up with something better than ruining a wedding party I'm going with mad bomber being the fruitcake nazi here.
lazs

lada · « **Reply #48 on:** June 05, 2004, 10:28:52 AM »

actualy ... masacres on wedding parties are quite popular these days and not only by lobotomized palestines

Somebody asked Grun something a bit diferent, so stay on theme lazs.

lazs2 · « **Reply #49 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:32:35 PM »

yes... stashing weapons and having the whole wedding party shoot at helicopters is seldom a good idea... I know it would bring out the nazi in me. how bout you?

lazs

lada · « **Reply #50 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:36:31 PM »

Killing civilist has nothing to do with Nazis.
You probably do not even know who were Nazi. Its time to find another big word, whitch you will use for hidding.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #51 on:** June 05, 2004, 02:18:28 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I have had several surgeries by jewish doctors who were well aware of my SS tatoos and asked me about em. they did exceptional work.

rav... I think it is a matter of perspective.. certainly none of us would like to live in a place where daily terrorist attacks took place but if it were my homeland I certainly would like to be armed. As for women and human rights... again, perspective... the arabs are so abusive that to compare them to the jews is pretty silly.. The jews would have to be about 100 times worse than they are in order to even compare the two. What I feel about womens rights is not the issue here... the issue is that you seem to be ignoring something the arabs do that would cause hand wringing and multiple daily postings here if the jews did half as much.

Crime in isreal is low.. the real danger is from arab terr.. er, freedom fighters. Other than that it is a pretty safe place to live. Swedens citizens have military weapons. I would not worry about that if I were there.

lazs

SS tatoo's?? You were in the SS?

lazs2 · « **Reply #52 on:** June 05, 2004, 05:23:34 PM »

lada.. who is this "we" you keep talking about? are you palestinien?

I wasn't the first here to use the word nazi... I don't think anyone is a nazi unless he is... a nazi. I was making fun of the idiots who call jews nazi's. I believe that the jews are acting much more civilized than the palestinians and that is all there is to it. I do not find it in the least odd that people who are the victims of mad suicide bombers and gunman spraying school yards ... that they would tend to dehumanize such animals.

the suicide bombers are not human.. they have given up their humanity. if caught they do deserve the gas chamber of leathal injection or whatever method is the current method of capital punishment. They are like sick dogs and they need to be put down. better luck in the next life I say.

shrade.. It was popular for come biker groups in the 70's and 80's to have nazi regalia along with nazi beliefs. I have allready stated before on this board that I held racist beliefs at one time in my life. I find it counter productive now. Waste of time. Much easier to take people as they present themselves.

lazs

ravells · « **Reply #53 on:** June 06, 2004, 05:03:19 PM »

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Originally posted by lada
Yup Ravs. But it depend on every single country. Did you note that most poor rights they have in most poor countries, mostly destroyed by long wars ?

Look at ritch countries in ME and check their situation.

Im afraid that domestical voilence is not smaller here. its only very well hidden. if you sometime read some materials about home voilance, you will find amazing numbers.

Sutch problem must be properly discovered, uncovered, before we will speak about some fixing.

Well, lada, it does depend on many factors.

Let's take a look at Saudi Arabia - a 'rich' middle eastern country relatively untroubled by war.
Here is their human rights record. Frankly, it's abysmal. Racism and sexism is virtually institutionalised there. Hell, the US State department says this and the US is supposed to be Saudi's 'friend'.

Of course there are always going to be unreported domestic violence crimes in any society, but I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that they are going to be far more unreported abuses in countries, like Saudi, where there are few or no structures for redress than, say in Europe.

Ravs

ravells · « **Reply #54 on:** June 06, 2004, 05:05:30 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I believe that the jews are acting much more civilized than the palestinians and that is all there is to it. I do not find it in the least odd that people who are the victims of mad suicide bombers and gunman spraying school yards ... that they would tend to dehumanize such animals.

the suicide bombers are not human.. they have given up their humanity. if caught they do deserve the gas chamber of leathal injection or whatever method is the current method of capital punishment. They are like sick dogs and they need to be put down. better luck in the next life I say.

lazs

But Lasz, if you treat people like animals, they will act like animals. And whose fault is that?

Ravs

VOR · « **Reply #55 on:** June 06, 2004, 05:13:57 PM »

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Originally posted by ravells
But Lasz, if you treat people like animals, they will act like animals. And whose fault is that?

Ravs

Circular logic. They act like amimals because they're treated like animals. They're treated like animals because they act like animals. Still no solution.

ravells · « **Reply #56 on:** June 06, 2004, 05:18:06 PM »

But if you look at it, the Israelis have the money, the education, the basic amenities of life (like water and electricity for all) and the military power. What have the Palestinians got? How many of those things are the Israelis willing to share?

[edit] if you create huge numbers in the 'underclass' whichever country you are talking about there is going to be a backlash. Look at Russia in 1917, or the civil rights movement in the US or the Tolpuddle marchers in Britain. It becomes even worse if people see they are consigned to the underclass from birth [edit]

I don't think it's circular at all.

Ravs

VOR · « **Reply #57 on:** June 06, 2004, 05:33:56 PM »

Ravs, this is all very interesting, but I'm more interested in how you think the problem can be fixed. Personally, I don't think it can.

ravells · « **Reply #58 on:** June 06, 2004, 07:12:42 PM »

If I knew the answer to that one, I would be collecting a nobel prize rather than posting on this BBS.

I suppose if I was pressed for an answer it would be for other countries to provide educational establishments for Palestinians and Israelis, outside of Israel to study alongside one another, but those establishments would have to be outside of Israel and with other nationalities.

I think pretty soon they would stop demonising each other, make friends and maybe even intermarry and have kids. Get to the last one and I think the problem is cracked. Who is a half jew half arab going to hate?

Religious difference is a tough one to get past, but I find that when you put teens together and their hormones are raging (first love and all that sort of thing), it's about the biggest force you can bring to bear against any other form of brainwashing.

Ravs

VOR · « **Reply #59 on:** June 06, 2004, 09:20:41 PM »

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Originally posted by ravells
If I knew the answer to that one, I would be collecting a nobel prize rather than posting on this BBS.

I suppose if I was pressed for an answer it would be for other countries to provide educational establishments for Palestinians and Israelis, outside of Israel to study alongside one another, but those establishments would have to be outside of Israel and with other nationalities.

I think pretty soon they would stop demonising each other, make friends and maybe even intermarry and have kids. Get to the last one and I think the problem is cracked. Who is a half jew half arab going to hate?

Religious difference is a tough one to get past, but I find that when you put teens together and their hormones are raging (first love and all that sort of thing), it's about the biggest force you can bring to bear against any other form of brainwashing.

Ravs

Interesting idea. Feeds upon the youth rebelling against tradition in a way, which usually just needs a gentle nudge to get it going. Something like that just might work, provided nobody blew up the school.