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Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 03, 2004, 03:20:00 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
sooo... if we just rounded up all the jews and killed em... we would help ouselves and the world too? lazs

Sub out Jews for Arabs / Palestinians / Iraqis / Muslims, and you have the sentiments of a majority of GOP melonheads on this board.

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 03, 2004, 04:53:27 PM »

Ok, just so that I have it straight... It's ok to hate jews but not those nice freedom fighters?

I don't advocate we kill anyone except terrorists and those who would support them.

So far as I can see... the jews have turned sand into somthing productive and the arabs can't seem to turn black gold into anything but hate and brutality and poverty for the masses.

I can't even figure out what the palestinians even want... I doubt they know or would be happy with anything less than the total destruction of all jews.

I would support any fair position tho.

oh... neocon... think of it as the "outing" of conservative jews by the liberal ones for not towing the liberal line... very similar to blacks saying that other blacks who don't tow the line are not "black enough".

lazs

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #32 on:** June 04, 2004, 12:25:25 AM »

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Originally posted by mietla
Nope, targeting civilians is terrorism. Killing them as a side effect because the enemy uses them as human shields is not.

You should spend a little time researching the subject of Palestinian and Israeli history.

If you drop ordinance from a/c in built up areas you will get collateral damage - it is not a question of "terrorists" using human shields that is simply an argument put forward by a racist individual who does not have the ability to empathise with human being outside of his own culture.

You don't like Arabs, so it really doesn't matter if children get killed - it was all the fault of the terrorists anyway.

Judaism suffered, and has always suffered incredible hardship and privation and the hands of gentiles - that does NOT give the state of Israel the right to behave in the same way.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #33 on:** June 04, 2004, 12:46:12 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Ok, just so that I have it straight... It's ok to hate jews but not those nice freedom fighters?

I don't advocate we kill anyone except terrorists and those who would support them.

So far as I can see... the jews have turned sand into somthing productive and the arabs can't seem to turn black gold into anything but hate and brutality and poverty for the masses.

I can't even figure out what the palestinians even want... I doubt they know or would be happy with anything less than the total destruction of all jews.

I would support any fair position tho.

oh... neocon... think of it as the "outing" of conservative jews by the liberal ones for not towing the liberal line... very similar to blacks saying that other blacks who don't tow the line are not "black enough".

lazs

Slow down laz you are making WAY too much sense here.

Murdr · « **Reply #34 on:** June 04, 2004, 02:07:52 AM »

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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
You should spend a little time researching the subject of Palestinian and Israeli history.

Excelent idea, and under the above criteria it should be quite easy too. Although Israeli history goes back 3000 years, there was never a "Palestine" nation and there were no people refered to as "Palestinian" until the 1940's, but the reference at that time actually refered to the Jewish people of that region. For the modern definition of "Palestinian" you need only go back to the mid 60s. A relatively brief time period in history

straffo · « **Reply #35 on:** June 04, 2004, 02:24:50 AM »

And there was no Israelian before 1948 ...
Before there was not Israelian nation ...

But there was Palestians during about 3000 some were Jewish some were not.

And it's still the true today some Israelian are Jewish some are not.

Murdr · « **Reply #36 on:** June 04, 2004, 02:54:25 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
And there was no Israelian before 1948 ...
Before there was not Israelian nation ...

But there was Palestians during about 3000 some were Jewish some were not.

And it's still the true today some Israelian are Jewish some are not.

Lol. What exactly did the acient Israelian Kings rule over then? Or do monarchies not count as a nation? Actually when Rome conquered Isreal they renamed the reigon something that has morphed into the modern pronounciation of Palestine.

An extention of your point would be that residents of Iowa are Louisianans because it was actually territory gained in the Louisiana Purchase. Some were Indian, and some were not, and its still true today

straffo · « **Reply #37 on:** June 04, 2004, 02:59:12 AM »

you forgot Canaan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan

Thrawn · « **Reply #38 on:** June 04, 2004, 03:01:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
well many of your idiot libral friends despise israel and applaud those vallient freedom fighters of palestine that like to kill woman and children.

What a load of bull****.

strk · « **Reply #39 on:** June 04, 2004, 05:54:16 AM »

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

lazs2 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 04, 2004, 08:30:03 AM »

I still don't get it... when the jews blow up an apartment complex that is filled with retreating terr... er "freedom fighters" "soldiers" whatever...

How is that the same as some palastinians blowing themselves up in a public market or school or opening up on a buss full of workers with machineguns? Seems that it is the latter who have dehumanized their enemies more than the former.

lazs

Thrawn · « **Reply #41 on:** June 04, 2004, 11:06:15 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
How is that the same as some palastinians blowing themselves up in a public market or school or opening up on a buss full of workers with machineguns?

It's the same in that innocent people are killed.

lazs2 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 04, 2004, 11:34:15 AM »

sorry thrawn... don't see it that way. if the reason for the attack is to kill civilians then that is worlds apart from bombing the hiding place of terr... er... "freedom fighters" who have run for cover there. If the "freedom fighters" blew up a jewish military convoy that collateraly killed civvilians then we could talk.

If you can't see the difference then you lack any real morals.

lazs

Thrawn · « **Reply #43 on:** June 04, 2004, 05:27:21 PM »

Hey lazs, I can see the differences. You asked for the similarites.