Tampa vs. Calgary

[Airhead]

Originally posted by Thrawn
What the heck difference does the colour make?

Dude, the pink lawn flamingos are the ONLY way to go. White ones look bland and black ones would look more like big old crows.

Color makes all the difference in the world Thrawn.

Sheeesh. "black and white lawn flamingos..."

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Scootter
I never said that. so DON'T put words in my mouth, pal

Then why did you mention that, "Most of the murders are Black on Black and drug crime related (when I say most I mean over 50%).".  

It's a agruement I've seen many times on this BBS so I decide to ask about it now, as it was certainly alluded to.  

You really want the only difference to be guns, well it's not, sorry.

Bull****.  

The problem is systemic and deep routed,  in a culture and generation and has no chance of being solved with or without gun laws.

I'm sure it is, what I was wondering about was comments like the following.

"the difference is as long as it is "black on black" it does not involve me or mine"

[Scootter]

Originally posted by Thrawn
What the heck difference does the colour make? ]

OHH !!!   (Sound of nerve being struck)

rant mode on


It makes a difference trust me (I wish it didn’t) and I think you know it and are just trolling.

The gang lifestyle is tribal and harsh, with no quarter given for weakness, it is as racial as you can imagine. The black gangs are not forgiving of other black gangs another more then they are of any other gang, The problem is poverty and poverty is from lack of application of oneself for betterment. With all the handouts over the last 30 years, we (as a society) have keep minorities down by replacing self application with welfare, while at the same time paying star athletes millions and teachers next to nothing. When gang members have something else to live for other then a street corner a slow change may start, until then forget about it.

This is reality, I am not trying to politicize or stereotype this, I am sad about this, as I have seen the potential in these folks and have worked with our church as well as Habituate for Humanity to help effect a change. I have worked with young gang members to train them in a trade (I am a homebuilder) and with very few exceptions have been bitterly disappointed by the pull of the gang and the “hood”.  I have been threatened and intimidated by them for trying to help one of their members. Our Habitat home was broken into and trashed because we would not pay for protection  as it was in a gang area (all areas are gang areas BTW).

Am I bitter? yep but I am even sadder about the situation. What burns my cookies is folks who think they know everything and spout off from there Lilly white towers about what’s wrong and how they have all the answers.

 Why not outlaw ignorance,  poverty and intolerance first then outlaw guns.

Rant mode off (sorry)
Puts soapbox away

[Scootter]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Then why did you mention that, "Most of the murders are Black on Black and drug crime related (when I say most I mean over 50%).".  

In responce to this:

"Tampa vs. Calgary
Reading throught the Sporting News today.. a particular stat caught my attention...

Tampa population: 313,600
Calgary population: 922,315

Tampa murders in 2003: 41
Calgary murders in 2003: 10


What's the story here? Why such a disparity?"





To point out in context the differance in our countrys and cultures (good and bad).

How many black gangs in Can?

Have many hoods?

How many Haitions and Cubans floating on rafts coming to your country?  Would you let them stay ? would you house, feed, pay them?

Yep the rat cages here called citys are full and full of problems, thats why I moved away from them.