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Offline lasse

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Im planning to get me a new graphics card, wich one ?
« on: March 08, 2000, 05:31:00 PM »
I am currently having a PII400 , 128MB ram, and a TNT2 ULTRA, 21" monitor(with a 30" fresnel lens).
I use a resolution of 1600x1200 in AH, and usually get fps between 20-35, sometimes more sometimes less.

I am planning to get me a GeForce256 DDRAM, is there any point for me to buy that card, or will there be no fps difference ?

I really want to buy the card, but then again I wont throw my money out the window either, so any advise would be nice.

It is an Asus GeForce card, with the card there is included "3D VR glasses".

Anyone knows what these are, and how they work ?
Anyone who has tried them, and how was it ?

Im probably gonna buy it on friday 10, so any advise before that would be nice.

But as I said, Im only gonna buy it if someone recommends it, or if no ones reply to this post    


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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2000, 07:11:00 PM »
 I really don`t think you will see a lot of difference,I lost all the red color in my monitor last night and suspecting my V770 TNT2 I pulled it and put my old STB V44OO TNT back in. FPS dropped a whopping 2 FPS using the B17 test. It will be a good choice if your planning on a faster CPU in the future,but with only 400mhz your processor bound at the moment.

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2000, 07:46:00 PM »
You need a faster CPU. The tntII doesn't top out til your feeding that baby about 700mhz. After that, go with the GeForce.

Been there, done that.

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2000, 09:21:00 PM »
So what are you gonna sell the TNT2 for?

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2000, 09:29:00 PM »
Yur CPU bound. If ya dont want to buy a new one (even if you are - you got nothing to loose then) Overlocked that puppy till she starts to crumble then knock it back a notch. voila - instant upgrade.
You should be able to get at least 500 MHz out of it. If ya get a cryo unit for it the sky is the limit   I've heard of a celery 333 being clocked to 900 odd MHz (stable) with a cryo on it.
If ya planning on getting a new one, it wont matter if ya bake it either  
tried overclocking your Ultra?

anyone smell burning silicon?

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2000, 03:02:00 AM »
I tried to overclock my CPU, but it is locked in some way  

Unless I got it at 400mhz it wont even boot, just jumps right in to the bios, where I has to change it back to 400mhz.

Anyone knows a solution to that ?
It is a Asus motherboard with lots of OC possibillities.

Anyhow In the next couple of months Im gonna get an all new 850mhz or 1Ghz from my work, and Im planning to put the Geforce into that one, and the TNT2 back in the 400, so I guess it aint for sale  

But if you say it is no point for me to change the graphics card on the 400, then I think Ill wait untill I get my new computer.

That is if I can wait.

How about those glasses, anyone that has tried a pair of those ?
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2000, 04:10:00 AM »
As far as I know, you will have a similar
fill rate with the GeForce (similar to TNT2U)
, but the GeForce is supposed to handle the
poligon calculations, freeing a lot of CPU.
I dont know whether AH is able to use this
feature or not.

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2000, 04:51:00 AM »
 You should be able to O/C to a higher speed than 400mhz,go here and check out this database for some tips on how other people have done it.
 http://207.229.137.213/cpudb/index.cfm

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2000, 03:29:00 AM »
Lasse, you need to crank up the front side bus speed.  Does your P2-400 have 66MHz or 100MHz FSB now?

Disclaimer: use this info at your own risk!

If it is 66MHz, the clock multiplier is 6. 66x6~400.  If it is 100MHZ, the multiplier is 4.  The multiplier is locked, you cannot change that.  So what you need to do is get the motherboard manual and see how to change the FSB speed.  From what I understood, you can do it straight from the bios, which is good.

If the speed is 66mhz now, crank it up to 75.  You should now have a P2-450.  Run your computer for a long time (3+ hrs) on very high load, any new flight sim will do.  If it works all right with no crashes - congratulations.  Jump into bios and check your cpu temperature (if you have a meter there).  If it is under 45 degrees C, you are pretty much safe to overclock even further.  83MHz fsb will give you a P2-500.  But that will strain your harddrives, video card and other stuff pretty far, because of the higher bus speeds. If you would get it running at 100 fsb, you'd have a P2-600.  Not bad  


But, if your cpu already is a 100 fsb, forget those figures I wrote. In this case you need to increase the fsb over 100. I havent oc'd a 100mhz fsb chip before, so I'm not sure how the speeds go.  I think its something like 112 and 125.  Try 112 first, just like I explained above.

If you have one of those new boards with adjustable fsb speeds, good.  It gives you more options      

I don't recommend increasing the cpu voltage to get the oc'd cpu more stable. But if you do, remember to add cooling fans!

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2000, 03:10:00 PM »
Lasse the Geforce is a good option if you have a big monitor (ie, 21"). When you crank a TNT2 up above 1024x768 it starts to suffer.

1024x768 or below the TNT2 can actually be faster than a Geforce depending on the software (a Geforces GPU has a lower clock rate than a TNT2).

When you crank a Geforce up that high it just keeps on humming.

Just doing a new build myself this weekend, going from a PII-450/196Mb/Geforce SDR to a PIII-600EB/256Mb 133Mhz/Geforce DDR :-) .

Ohhh.. almost forgot, I work the company the distributes Asus in NZ :-) . Love the product, it rocks, good support, good drivers been selling them for 5 or so years etc. Asus crank out 1 million motherboards a month, 200000 of those usually go to HP. The Deluxe Geforces they do have video in and out, the 3D glasses are fun in a dark room but a bit gimmicky...

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