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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2004, 11:17:22 PM »
I can't imagine not showering or bathing at least once a day. I also can't imagine not using deoderant.

I have forgotton deorderant while traveling a couple times and I felt like GARBAGE without it for even 1/2 day.

BO is sickening.

humans are tough though and they will survive, and even in 3rd world countries like Russia they at least have access to soap.
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« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2004, 03:19:26 AM »
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« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2004, 03:28:08 AM »
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Never been in a paper mill...is there a strong chemical odor or something? Come to think of it, I have no idea how a tree is turned into a monthly phone bill or Wal-mart sale flyer. :D


lots of nasty chemicals in a mill, acids and caustics for the most part.  strong enough that they can turn a 100' tall douglas fir into something you can wipe your butt with, in just a few days.

the general condenses is that paper-mills are one of the worst smelling things ever.  and it's not unusual to be able to smell them from over 5 miles away if the wind is right.  most people tell me that to them it smells like someone boiling a lot of rotten cabbage.

it must be an acquired aroma, to me they smell like a handful of sweaty hundred dollar bills.

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« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2004, 03:35:44 AM »
Yep, pulp/paper mills indeed smell horrible. Although they don't smell nearly as bad as they used to. Maybe there are some new filtrering techniques and/or less nasty chemicals used nowdays?

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« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2004, 04:06:58 AM »
In Finland we have a lot of lakes and some of us love to fresh up in a hole in the ice in wintertime. But if you hate cold water you can do this:D


The outdoor palju


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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2004, 04:25:13 AM »
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Yep, pulp/paper mills indeed smell horrible. Although they don't smell nearly as bad as they used to. Maybe there are some new filtrering techniques and/or less nasty chemicals used nowdays?


not much changes in the process, but with the 'clean air act' standards in the 90's they had to put better filtering on the furnaces where they burn the chemicals.  and emissions and spillage are monitored much more heavily than they where 15 years ago.

in the 80's they'd just hose a spill down to the storm drains or rinse it off the pavement and let it soak into the dirt.  most places have upgraded their environmental standards considerably.

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« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2004, 04:48:11 AM »
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I have to say I'm impressed with Russian technology. Turning off the water to prevent freezing is genious! When are you going to invent insulation?


I wonder what will happen to your piping system if it will be used under -20C for 3 months. You'll suddenly discover many interesting things, like the fact that ice blows the pipes up.

They check and re-seal the pipes, make high pressure tests, etc. JFYI: I don't know about your water system (is it as unreliable as your electrical network? can you drink tap water safely?), but here the pipes are wrapped in thermal insulation that makes pipes look two times thiker.

Any malfunction in Winter can be lethal. I am not ready to heat my flat with oven and firewood or coal. Even the pipes that are 100% OK and checked can freeze if temperature will drop below -40C, and it is quite possible.

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« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2004, 05:06:44 AM »
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I can't imagine not showering or bathing at least once a day. I also can't imagine not using deoderant.

I have forgotton deorderant while traveling a couple times and I felt like GARBAGE without it for even 1/2 day.

BO is sickening.


You mean you need deodorant when you travell? Deodorant while going mountain-hiking?! Deodorant in a 40kg backpack?! Even if you are strong enough to carry all this useless stuff (that I doubt) - you are definetly nuts. Better take some baby-powder, it's more usefull. Seriously.

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humans are tough though and they will survive, and even in 3rd world countries like Russia they at least have access to soap.


You must be ashamed of your ancestors. Did gold-miners from Jack London's stories use deodorant too?

A person who identifies himself as a "man" and can't live a single day without deodorant? You need a good hiking trip in taiga or mountains above Arctic circle for a month. This is the easiest way to repair your system of values, mr. Good Smelling Civilized Man. :rolleyes: I hope you are tough enough and will survive 30km daily with 40kg backpack without deodorant. This is what we make with a group of school kids.

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« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2004, 05:34:18 AM »
Boroda you know Russia sucks, just move away to somewhere nicer like mongolia or bangladesh...  ;)  <---  edit
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« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2004, 06:02:21 AM »
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Boroda you know Russia sucks, just move away to somewhere nicer like mongolia or bangladesh...  ;)  <---  edit


At least there people don't suffer when they can't use deodorant.

Some jokes from hiking folklore:

People who wash when hiking are too lazy to scrach where itches.

Dirt kills germs.

It's not dirt until it's 3 weeks old, and after 3 weeks it falls away by itself.

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« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2004, 07:05:10 AM »
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I wonder what will happen to your piping system if it will be used under -20C for 3 months. You'll suddenly discover many interesting things, like the fact that ice blows the pipes up.

They check and re-seal the pipes, make high pressure tests, etc. JFYI: I don't know about your water system (is it as unreliable as your electrical network? can you drink tap water safely?), but here the pipes are wrapped in thermal insulation that makes pipes look two times thiker.

Any malfunction in Winter can be lethal. I am not ready to heat my flat with oven and firewood or coal. Even the pipes that are 100% OK and checked can freeze if temperature will drop below -40C, and it is quite possible.

Amazing Boroda. We have a place like that called Alaska and I've heard of somewhere called Canada. Oddly enough both places have water year round. I think the difference is in quality of construction.
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« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2004, 07:15:18 AM »

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« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2004, 07:25:38 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2004, 08:45:06 AM »
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Amazing Boroda. We have a place like that called Alaska and I've heard of somewhere called Canada. Oddly enough both places have water year round. I think the difference is in quality of construction.


Comparing Alaska to Moscow (not speaking of Siberia or Urals, where the climate is more continental) is funny.

Next time please suggest to cancell pre-flight aircraft checks - most of the time everything is OK, so why bother?

I don't know why they turn off hot water every summer, and I think they can do all nessesary things in 3 days, but I don't remember a sinlgle time when they turned heating off in winter. This 3 weeks are excluded from my rent payments, so that's probably why they keep it off.

RPM, a citizen of a country that can't run it's electric network reliable enough to avoid blackouts that last for several days and leave 50 million people helpless should better not teach us how to live. So please STFU and go use some deodorant - you sweat too much posting such things.

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« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2004, 09:24:56 AM »
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Comparing Alaska to Moscow (not speaking of Siberia or Urals, where the climate is more continental) is funny.

Next time please suggest to cancell pre-flight aircraft checks - most of the time everything is OK, so why bother?

I don't know why they turn off hot water every summer, and I think they can do all nessesary things in 3 days, but I don't remember a sinlgle time when they turned heating off in winter. This 3 weeks are excluded from my rent payments, so that's probably why they keep it off.

RPM, a citizen of a country that can't run it's electric network reliable enough to avoid blackouts that last for several days and leave 50 million people helpless should better not teach us how to live. So please STFU and go use some deodorant - you sweat too much posting such things.


Get it right Boroda, the "country" doesn't control all the electricity. That was a problem in Kalifornia.
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