Author Topic: Troop Gliders? (Read 886 times)

MarkVZ · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2000, 05:28:00 PM »

Oh well, it was just an idea

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Mark VanZwoll
33rd Strike Group

eskimo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2000, 08:00:00 AM »

I like the idea and would also fly them. I especially like the idea of being able to hop into a jeep with a 50. after landing.
eskimo

Kieren · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2000, 08:14:00 AM »

Gotta agree with Pongo on this one. It sounds like a neat idea, but under the current plan it would be tough to make work. Now, if the gliders could carry jeeps with .50's mounted on them, we have a great idea. Troops? Keep the C-47's.

-aper- · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2000, 10:34:00 AM »

Just a question

Is there any way to carry Panzer-IV by the transport plane or glider?

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2000, 10:58:00 AM »

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Is there any way to carry Panzer-IV by the transport plane or glider?

Any aeronautical engineers out there that care to tackle this one? We need the weight of the tank and someone to figure out the wingspan required to keep one of these babies airborne

Right off hand, my thought is that you can get one of these to fall alot easier than you can get it to fly. Hook a chute to it

AKDejaVu

Pongo · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2000, 12:55:00 PM »

Sure weighs 25tons or so. Need a C17 or C5 some thing of that class. It would fit in a herc but I dont know about the weight.Maybe a Herc could lift a Pz IVh but I am sceptical.

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Pongo
The Wrecking Crew

Saintaw · « **Reply #21 on:** March 14, 2000, 06:40:00 AM »

Glad to hear you again MarkVZ !
I'd like the idea, not in the MA (too many respawns) but this would be very cool in the Special Event Arena / Historic Aena...

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KNIGHT'S FINEST FLYING BRICK

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MarkVZ · « **Reply #22 on:** April 15, 2000, 07:01:00 PM »

Sorry guys, couldn't let this fall off the edge of the board

<punt!>

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Mark VanZwoll
33rd Strike Group

MarkVZ · « **Reply #23 on:** March 29, 2001, 09:07:00 PM »

<punt> again

I think that it would be cool if HTC beat the immediate competition to something like this, as well as seaplanes.

Kudos to HTC for their recent efforts in Aces High. They have come a very long way. <S>

-MarkVZ-

Rojo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 29, 2001, 11:58:00 PM »

The Germans had their giant glider that was later converted to a heavy transport by adding about six engines to it. I saw one picture of it unloading a light tank of some sort. By the by, I think gliders have a place in AH, but only if they carry something besides troops. Artie, a jeep, or perhaps a very light armored vehicle. Otherwise, I think simply taking a second C47 at low alt would serve you better than the C-47/glider pair.

An interesting historical note about the Allied glider-borne troops. Unlike the paratroopers, the glider troops did not get hazardous duty pay of any kind, even on D-day. Their casualties really were horrendous, too.

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Saintaw · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2001, 12:20:00 AM »

geeez, I started reading this & realised I had read it all about a year ago

more planes, better...always

Saw
[Mass]

Voss · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2001, 12:21:00 AM »

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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Actually.. "Perceived success" would be a better term. The German's suffered extremely high casualties the only time they used gliders in a major offensive. The didn't use them again. The US didn't know this.. they only knew that the German's took a base and that they used gliders to do it.

AKDejaVu

I read that differently. Weren't the German gliders used at the very onset of the war? Wasn't the one operation you mention a surprise attack? I don't believe that details of the attack gave the losses due to aircraft deficiencies, but because the 110's (I think they were) did not succeed at their assignment (AA supression).

I don't think the LWKommandeur (whatever) would have repeated the same tactic any time soon, but not because the gliders failed. One guy flew into a mountain, didn't he (low ceiling)? The other guys got into a gun fight at the debarkation point? Their tactical advantage was gone, also, because of a timing error. The element of surprise gone (but the gliders had delivered them) they were easy targets.

For some reason I didn't recall this event as being totally catostrophic? I thought the target in question was lightly defended, and the place was taken after a harrowing gun battle!?!

In honor of the Germans having 'created' jump troops (they used them first), shouldn't we be using Iron Annies?

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Voss
13th TAS

Arty · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2001, 01:55:00 AM »

As I recal the Brits had the Hamilcar, which was designed to carry a Locust light tank. That might be a really fun addition to the game. Just my thoughts

Seeker · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2001, 09:21:00 AM »

How come no ones mentioned the Me 323?, the second largest glider in the War, capable of taking 80 troops (more in an emergency) and a light tank?

they even made a six motored, Jato asisted powered version.

It was used at both Stalingrad and Tunisia, a huge lumbering target as a glider, but the powered version was quite heavily defensivly armed.

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Eagler · « **Reply #29 on:** December 12, 2001, 08:14:00 AM »

punt

be neat to be tow plane, then glider pilot once released, then the m3, m8, ost or pnzr driver once you land them - be tricky with all the trees, maybe mega perk points for your troubles. someone join you like gunner to be one of them..

or it'd be neater to shoot them down